I need something clarified:

IUsedToBeShodansOwn · June 18th, 2005, 22:42

I just had one the the most idiotic conversations ever with someone I THOUGHT was smart. Now, to be clear, I dont own a gun yet, but I'm saving for a P90. That said, I've been researching airsoft for a LONG time. Here is the conversation:

Him: But I have taken out many assault rifles with it because they can't move as fast in tight places :]
Me: thats why I'm getting a P90

tight, compact, but mad powerful
Him: They all have the same exact barrel lenght
Me: "they all"?
Him: What matters in the FPS
Him: All guns
Me: WOW
Me: thats SO untrue
Him: It's a 2inch copper pipe
Him: dude trust me I have taken a bunch appart
Me: man, I like you, but that was a fuckin stupid statement
Him:The rest is plastic that does not touch the ball
Him: airsoft guns?
Him: Not real guns?
Me: you're telling me that a P90 has the same barrel length as an M4 carbine, or an AUG?
Him: The actual component in a airsoft gun
Him: yes
Me: omg, dude, dont be a retard
Him: Have you played before?
Him: I've been playing for 2 years
Him: There is the hop up, which spins the ball
Him: Then a 2 inch copper pipe thingy
Him: Then the rest of the barrel is plastic
Him: What makes the differance in accuracy is the FPS

Sorry for showing so much of the conversation, but man...I want to bitch slap him. I dont have any issues admitting I'm wrong, but...whos right here? I'm PRETTY FUCKIN SURE that the barrel length is unique to every gun, and that you can change the inner barrel (or, 2 inch copper pipe thingy, as he puts it) to pretty much any length the body will accomodate... please...someone clear this up. I'd like to know if I'm wrong, and I'd like to be able to throw this at him if I'm right. Sorry that this is such a blindingly stupid topic, but I really want to have experienced people comment on this.

ILLusion · June 18th, 2005, 22:45

The different lengths of barrels available here tells all:

http://www.wgcshop.com/pcart/shopper...s%20for%20AEGs

You'll also notice that not even one of them is anywhere close to being as short as 2 inches.

And stock barrels are brass, not copper.

Cortexburn · June 18th, 2005, 22:46

They arn't 2 inches...they do differ in length. They arn't copper...and it's a bb, not a "ball"....

Your right in thinking this guy has the IQ the same as the size of a bb.

IUsedToBeShodansOwn · June 18th, 2005, 22:48

*sigh* THANK you. I didnt say too much to him about it, because I was only 99.999% sure, and I didnt want to go nuts on him, then be wrong...I shall proceed in the going nuts now though...

Treadstone71 · June 18th, 2005, 22:53

Perhaps he meant all stock barrels have the same diameter?

made Man · June 18th, 2005, 22:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Treadstone71

Perhaps he meant all stock barrels have the same diameter?

2 inches :-?

IUsedToBeShodansOwn · June 18th, 2005, 23:27

Yeah, I think the problem is that he has been playing with cheap, low quality "toy" pistols. Like, he said he pretty much only uses a Glock, and he didnt even mention the brand. Anyways, I think he is just horribly mis-informed, dispite his "experience".

FOX_111 · June 18th, 2005, 23:39

anyone playing for real would have noticed the inner barrel comming almost flush the the outer barrel in almost every AEGs....

I think it's a case of chairsofter or a major noob here.

IUsedToBeShodansOwn · June 18th, 2005, 23:43

No...he isnt a noob...I just think that he has scrapped the surface of airsofting, but thinks hes an experienced player. I'm not sure what "chairsofting" is, but I have a pretty good idea, and it sounds like that is the case.

keg057 · June 19th, 2005, 01:40

chairsofting- Playing counter-strike or any war simulated game in full camo for an extended period of time.

IUsedToBeShodansOwn · June 19th, 2005, 02:07

AAaahhh...well...lol, hes an admin for a CounterStrike group. He plays a LOT of counterstrike. I mentioned the "bullpup" orientation of the P90, and he thought I was talking about the AUG...didnt know what bullpup meant...

Dirty Deeds · June 19th, 2005, 12:04

Bahhh.....Chairsofter/Airsofter......Either you're stupid or not. This guy is terribly mis-informed, or a moron who thinks he knows it all. Don't argue with him, just show him Illusion's link.

Or show him this thread.

M16 barrel 550mm (approx 22 inches)
http://www.wgcshop.com/pcart/shopper...L_cat_Accurate Barrels for AEGs

MP5A5 barrel 229mm (approx 9 inches)
http://www.wgcshop.com/pcart/shopper...P_cat_Accurate Barrels for AEGs

MP5K barrel 110mm (approx 4.5 inches)
http://www.wgcshop.com/pcart/shopper...K_cat_Accurate Barrels for AEGs

the end · June 19th, 2005, 19:38

this "friend" of yours... does he like to smoke crack?

FOX_111 · June 19th, 2005, 19:48

A chairsofter is also someone who own some gear and play once a year or less but keep talking on forums and chats like they have tons of experience.

DeathSniper · June 19th, 2005, 19:51

Hey-hey now, nothing wrong with playing CounterStrike...

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June 18th, 2005, 22:42	#1
IUsedToBeShodansOwn Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Vancouver, BC	I need something clarified: I just had one the the most idiotic conversations ever with someone I THOUGHT was smart. Now, to be clear, I dont own a gun yet, but I'm saving for a P90. That said, I've been researching airsoft for a LONG time. Here is the conversation: Him: But I have taken out many assault rifles with it because they can't move as fast in tight places :] Me: thats why I'm getting a P90 tight, compact, but mad powerful Him: They all have the same exact barrel lenght Me: "they all"? Him: What matters in the FPS Him: All guns Me: WOW Me: thats SO untrue Him: It's a 2inch copper pipe Him: dude trust me I have taken a bunch appart Me: man, I like you, but that was a fuckin stupid statement Him:The rest is plastic that does not touch the ball Him: airsoft guns? Him: Not real guns? Me: you're telling me that a P90 has the same barrel length as an M4 carbine, or an AUG? Him: The actual component in a airsoft gun Him: yes Me: omg, dude, dont be a retard Him: Have you played before? Him: I've been playing for 2 years Him: There is the hop up, which spins the ball Him: Then a 2 inch copper pipe thingy Him: Then the rest of the barrel is plastic Him: What makes the differance in accuracy is the FPS Sorry for showing so much of the conversation, but man...I want to bitch slap him. I dont have any issues admitting I'm wrong, but...whos right here? I'm PRETTY FUCKIN SURE that the barrel length is unique to every gun, and that you can change the inner barrel (or, 2 inch copper pipe thingy, as he puts it) to pretty much any length the body will accomodate... please...someone clear this up. I'd like to know if I'm wrong, and I'd like to be able to throw this at him if I'm right. Sorry that this is such a blindingly stupid topic, but I really want to have experienced people comment on this.

June 18th, 2005, 22:45	#2
ILLusion GBB Whisperer Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Toronto	The different lengths of barrels available here tells all: http://www.wgcshop.com/pcart/shopper...s%20for%20AEGs You'll also notice that not even one of them is anywhere close to being as short as 2 inches. And stock barrels are brass, not copper. __________________ *Advanced Airsoft Armaments and Enhancements* Quick to the gun, sure of your grip. Quick to the threat, sure of your shot. Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas Accuracy, Power, Speed

June 18th, 2005, 22:46	#3
Cortexburn Miserable Bastard Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Red Deer, Alberta	They arn't 2 inches...they do differ in length. They arn't copper...and it's a bb, not a "ball".... Your right in thinking this guy has the IQ the same as the size of a bb. __________________ My Buy/Sell Rating. “We cannot defend freedom abroad by deserting it at home.” Thomas Jefferson I hate Ghillie suits. Socialism SUCKS www.unisevil.com

June 18th, 2005, 22:48	#4
IUsedToBeShodansOwn Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Vancouver, BC	sigh THANK you. I didnt say too much to him about it, because I was only 99.999% sure, and I didnt want to go nuts on him, then be wrong...I shall proceed in the going nuts now though...

June 18th, 2005, 22:53	#5
Treadstone71 Ain't gay, but $20 is $20 Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Downtown Toronto	Perhaps he meant all stock barrels have the same diameter? __________________ Remember kids, go down the road, not across the street! Here's a sharp knife, have fun!

June 18th, 2005, 23:27	#7
IUsedToBeShodansOwn Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Vancouver, BC	Yeah, I think the problem is that he has been playing with cheap, low quality "toy" pistols. Like, he said he pretty much only uses a Glock, and he didnt even mention the brand. Anyways, I think he is just horribly mis-informed, dispite his "experience".

June 18th, 2005, 23:39	#8
FOX_111 Le Roi des poissons d'avril Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Terrebonne, Québec	anyone playing for real would have noticed the inner barrel comming almost flush the the outer barrel in almost every AEGs.... I think it's a case of chairsofter or a major noob here. __________________ Vérificateur d'âge: Terrebonne

June 18th, 2005, 23:43	#9
IUsedToBeShodansOwn Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Vancouver, BC	No...he isnt a noob...I just think that he has scrapped the surface of airsofting, but thinks hes an experienced player. I'm not sure what "chairsofting" is, but I have a pretty good idea, and it sounds like that is the case.

June 19th, 2005, 01:40	#10
keg057 Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: kitchener, ON	chairsofting- Playing counter-strike or any war simulated game in full camo for an extended period of time. __________________ Fear is only a state of mind... Arsenal: KWA MP7, KWA USP Compact

June 19th, 2005, 02:07	#11
IUsedToBeShodansOwn Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Vancouver, BC	AAaahhh...well...lol, hes an admin for a CounterStrike group. He plays a LOT of counterstrike. I mentioned the "bullpup" orientation of the P90, and he thought I was talking about the AUG...didnt know what bullpup meant...

June 19th, 2005, 12:04	#12
Dirty Deeds Trader rating Join Date: May 2004 Location: Montreal	Bahhh.....Chairsofter/Airsofter......Either you're stupid or not. This guy is terribly mis-informed, or a moron who thinks he knows it all. Don't argue with him, just show him Illusion's link. Or show him this thread. M16 barrel 550mm (approx 22 inches) http://www.wgcshop.com/pcart/shopper...L_cat_Accurate Barrels for AEGs MP5A5 barrel 229mm (approx 9 inches) http://www.wgcshop.com/pcart/shopper...P_cat_Accurate Barrels for AEGs MP5K barrel 110mm (approx 4.5 inches) http://www.wgcshop.com/pcart/shopper...K_cat_Accurate Barrels for AEGs __________________ Team Bad Karma(BK-09) CAUTION: Evil Genius at Work Those that wear the "Tin Foil Hat" stand on guard for thee. All others stand on guard for themselves.

June 19th, 2005, 19:48	#14
FOX_111 Le Roi des poissons d'avril Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Terrebonne, Québec	A chairsofter is also someone who own some gear and play once a year or less but keep talking on forums and chats like they have tons of experience. __________________ Vérificateur d'âge: Terrebonne

June 19th, 2005, 19:51	#15
DeathSniper Hibernating Bear Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Misssissauga (near Toronto)	Hey-hey now, nothing wrong with playing CounterStrike... __________________ Scarecrow - "old geezers like myself and Starlight" - "senility prevents me from recognizing anyone except people who owe me money.." Greylocks - "The heck with 'getting'. I am old." SF - "Neal! You are the one!"

I need something clarified:

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