WE SCAR or WE G39C?

Thenooblord · November 19th, 2010, 11:42

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Originally Posted by Master Blaster

In what way, please explain your experience.

the DAY I bought it, the valve knocker wore out and became unusable, then I replaced that, and the first mag I put through it to test fire, the delayer pin snapped, then I replaced that, and the hammer wore out, replaced that and the trigger wore out, and the whole time I had feeding and hopup issues if it was ever in a state where BBs would actually fire

wildcard · November 19th, 2010, 12:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thenooblord

the DAY I bought it, the valve knocker wore out and became unusable, then I replaced that, and the first mag I put through it to test fire, the delayer pin snapped, then I replaced that, and the hammer wore out, replaced that and the trigger wore out, and the whole time I had feeding and hopup issues if it was ever in a state where BBs would actually fire

How the hell do you wear out your valve knocker to the point where it's unusable the same day you bought it?, I'm still on my original valve knocker for almost a year now and my other one(CQBR) which is on loan for testing since August and went through at least 1 whole case of .28 with only having to replace the trigger and valve knocker once. The only issue with WE that all of us have in common are the infamous part #66. These GBBR require lots of care, basic understanding on mechanical functions and lube if you neglect those then you are bound to face issues, I have more issues with the WA based than my WE, once I replace the part 66 and the hop up to stinger hop up they are fine.

Thenooblord · November 19th, 2010, 19:37

i have no fucking clue how the knocker wore out, but it just wore to the point where it would push off to the top of the valve instead of striking it

Mplanters · November 19th, 2010, 19:56

Scar is a particular look, you like it or you don't. I prefer G39C then scar.

Riko · November 24th, 2010, 20:13

I have both....

That said, I have had and still have issues with my Scar. Although its fully upgraded internally with RA Tech reinforced parts.
The big issue I have is due to the trigger assembly....it shoots at 2 bursts in semi and I seem to eject gas a lot.
I have tried to find out what the problem is for weeks now and got many replacement parts for the trigger assembly and it still hasnt fixed the problem (I must say it were M4 parts, so that could be the source)
Assembling and dissasembling the trigger area so many times over and over didn't do well for the parts too I guess, so I have orderd a whole new trigger assembly and I hope that will fix the issue I have now. (it should arrive this week)

But for the short period it did shoot as it should have, it shoots like a dream

The G39c wich I converted to G36 fullsized, shoots like a dream out of the box

And with no updates internally, so I hope it will last some time without upgrading, however I am waiting for RA Tech to bring out a npas system to boost up the fps of this baby

My scar shoots about 470 fps with the Npas system that I adjusted a bit, and my stock G36 shoots about 370 fps.

I like the looks of both guns equally.
But sound and power wise, the scar wins!
In terms of kick, the G36 is the winner for sure! :-)

Thenooblord · November 24th, 2010, 23:11

dont they have FPS limits where you live? I brought my M14 DOWN to 310 or so FPS, cause I play CQB

Riko · November 25th, 2010, 10:44

yes they have, but I dont skirm, so those rules do not apply to me

we can go as far as 7J to be still classified as airsoft in Belgium.

Boris the Blade · November 25th, 2010, 15:34

G39C or PDW are better choices then the SCAR IMO. I've shot all three and was more impressed with them than the SCAR. The G39c and PDW have a better system, which is more reliable than the SCAR's system. To date I've only seen one WE SCAR that worked on a consistent basis, and there were few WE parts if any left in them.

Riko · November 28th, 2010, 20:52

that is true

I dont argue the fact that the system of the new G39 is better than the Scar.
(dunno about the pdw)
I seems to be a fact that open bolt systems are just plain more reliable than close systems...

On the other hand, WE will bring out a open bolt scar, I just hope it can be swapped with parts from the current scar system...

Ninja_En_Short · November 30th, 2010, 05:22

Just got my G36 and worked on the mag, very good gun, but insanely bad gaz seal and very weak filling valve, torn off the head by unscrewing it !!!

CO2 mags, fast !

Making a review soon

wildcard · November 30th, 2010, 11:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninja_En_Short

Just got my G36 and worked on the mag, very good gun, but insanely bad gaz seal and very weak filling valve, torn off the head by unscrewing it !!!

CO2 mags, fast !

Making a review soon

just an FYI some of the mags comes really dry mine had a minor leak but I swapped the oring with teh one that was prelubed and it's all good now.

I think some of the WE mags orings get dried up during shipping, when I took my G39 mags apart the orings are extremely dry

Ninja_En_Short · November 30th, 2010, 17:23

Actually I opened it to make my usual massive seal but the rubber seal are insanely thin... I don't like that, plus I really don't get why they made the tank unit in two parts

That only gives twice as much chances of getting a leak.

I would have liked a good regular one like a pistol : a floor plate and one simple seal.

Ross · December 3rd, 2010, 12:10

I've replaced the hop up 4 times in my scar. It never shot consistently once. Everything in the lower receiver breaks. And when you start to upgrade small parts it causes other parts to break that wouldn't normally break. All the magazines will leak eventually and need to be modded so they don't chop up your bbs. The hop up isn't adjustable without taking the whole thing apart. Unless you carry around a screw driver while gaming and put lots of force on it.

The whole thing needs to remain greased and lubed at all times and the valve o-rings need to stay wet with silicone. After a couple of magazines the valve o-rings dry up and more oil is needed.

All the hex screws slowly come loose from recoil, and need to be tightened often. If your playing in weather colder than +20 Celsius the gas consumption is high and you'll run out of gas before you run out of bbs.

RA-tech parts sometimes have compatibility issues. Their trigger didn't fit, the valve knocker destroyed it's own housing after 5 rounds, and their precision inner barrels flat out was not compatible with the gun at all.

Other than that, I've had absolutely no problems with the gun. LOL

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November 25th, 2010, 15:34	#23
Boris the Blade Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Toronto, Ontario	G39C or PDW are better choices then the SCAR IMO. I've shot all three and was more impressed with them than the SCAR. The G39c and PDW have a better system, which is more reliable than the SCAR's system. To date I've only seen one WE SCAR that worked on a consistent basis, and there were few WE parts if any left in them. __________________ Every word ever written will fall short, of it's intent Even sung, or spoke, or screamed, they will betray what they had meant.

November 30th, 2010, 05:22	#25
Ninja_En_Short Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: France, Canada (Montréal)	Just got my G36 and worked on the mag, very good gun, but insanely bad gaz seal and very weak filling valve, torn off the head by unscrewing it !!! CO2 mags, fast ! Making a review soon __________________ Tous les jours nous nous endormons plus instruits mais pas forcément moins bêtes... I can do a CTRL+ATL+DEL on your gun ! Gun doc in Montreal on AEG, GBB, GBBR and Bolt rifle (gaz and spring) Heavy custom builder (including painting)

November 19th, 2010, 19:56	#19
Mplanters Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Montréal, Qc	Scar is a particular look, you like it or you don't. I prefer G39C then scar.

November 24th, 2010, 20:13	#20
Riko Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Belgium	I have both.... That said, I have had and still have issues with my Scar. Although its fully upgraded internally with RA Tech reinforced parts. The big issue I have is due to the trigger assembly....it shoots at 2 bursts in semi and I seem to eject gas a lot. I have tried to find out what the problem is for weeks now and got many replacement parts for the trigger assembly and it still hasnt fixed the problem (I must say it were M4 parts, so that could be the source) Assembling and dissasembling the trigger area so many times over and over didn't do well for the parts too I guess, so I have orderd a whole new trigger assembly and I hope that will fix the issue I have now. (it should arrive this week) But for the short period it did shoot as it should have, it shoots like a dream The G39c wich I converted to G36 fullsized, shoots like a dream out of the box And with no updates internally, so I hope it will last some time without upgrading, however I am waiting for RA Tech to bring out a npas system to boost up the fps of this baby My scar shoots about 470 fps with the Npas system that I adjusted a bit, and my stock G36 shoots about 370 fps. I like the looks of both guns equally. But sound and power wise, the scar wins! In terms of kick, the G36 is the winner for sure! :-)

November 25th, 2010, 10:44	#22
Riko Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Belgium	yes they have, but I dont skirm, so those rules do not apply to me we can go as far as 7J to be still classified as airsoft in Belgium.

November 28th, 2010, 20:52	#24
Riko Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Belgium	that is true I dont argue the fact that the system of the new G39 is better than the Scar. (dunno about the pdw) I seems to be a fact that open bolt systems are just plain more reliable than close systems... On the other hand, WE will bring out a open bolt scar, I just hope it can be swapped with parts from the current scar system...

November 30th, 2010, 17:23	#27
Ninja_En_Short Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: France, Canada (Montréal)	Actually I opened it to make my usual massive seal but the rubber seal are insanely thin... I don't like that, plus I really don't get why they made the tank unit in two parts That only gives twice as much chances of getting a leak. I would have liked a good regular one like a pistol : a floor plate and one simple seal. __________________ Tous les jours nous nous endormons plus instruits mais pas forcément moins bêtes... I can do a CTRL+ATL+DEL on your gun ! Gun doc in Montreal on AEG, GBB, GBBR and Bolt rifle (gaz and spring) Heavy custom builder (including painting)

December 3rd, 2010, 12:10	#28
Ross Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Winnipeg	I've replaced the hop up 4 times in my scar. It never shot consistently once. Everything in the lower receiver breaks. And when you start to upgrade small parts it causes other parts to break that wouldn't normally break. All the magazines will leak eventually and need to be modded so they don't chop up your bbs. The hop up isn't adjustable without taking the whole thing apart. Unless you carry around a screw driver while gaming and put lots of force on it. The whole thing needs to remain greased and lubed at all times and the valve o-rings need to stay wet with silicone. After a couple of magazines the valve o-rings dry up and more oil is needed. All the hex screws slowly come loose from recoil, and need to be tightened often. If your playing in weather colder than +20 Celsius the gas consumption is high and you'll run out of gas before you run out of bbs. RA-tech parts sometimes have compatibility issues. Their trigger didn't fit, the valve knocker destroyed it's own housing after 5 rounds, and their precision inner barrels flat out was not compatible with the gun at all. Other than that, I've had absolutely no problems with the gun. LOL

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