New Systema "ENERGY" gearbox

[Skruface]

Newly designed gearbox/motor combo from Systema. Now featuring more carbon fibre to pimp the INSIDE of your gun.

http://www.popularairsoft.com/now-ge...systema-energy

[Skladfin]

interesting

are the gears helical? They say so in the article but they don't seem to be pictured.

[CDN_Stalker]

Look at the top teeth on the spur gear, you can see they look somewhat helical.

[ILLusion]

Originally Posted by Skladfin

interesting

are the gears helical? They say so in the article but they don't seem to be pictured.

Look at the spur gear. It's definitely helical.

[Skladfin]

the bottom teeth on the spur gear does indeed look helical. However, shouldn't the teeth meshing with the sector be more important if you wanted more torque and less motor whine?

[Oborous]

O.K., so am I reading the motor chart completely wrong? They're talking about 2V, 3V, and 4V... I'm assuming this means 2 to 4 volts. With 99% of the airsofters running between 7.4v and 12v how is this relevant? I'd like to see the performance in the actual usage range.

[scurvythepirate]

Just released at Red Wolf:

Systema ENERGY CMB M170 Mechbox / Gearbox & MAGNUM Motor Set for SR16 & M4:
Systema's new ENERGY series parts made with stronger yet lighter materials has enabled them to make this M170 Complete gearbox (which comes with a MAGNUM super high torque motor). Carbon fiber material has been incorporated into the components for a lighter overall gearbox, which many players asked for given how today's full metal AEGs are getting heavier and heavier to carry around. Lighter parts also means less power required to start inertial motion, resulting in energy saving and longer play time between charges. And of course, less inertial resistance means that the same amount of energy can be used to power a higher tensile spring. New darker color coating on the gearbox clearly separates this series from the regular version. A lighter sector gear also generates less wear and tear on the motor gear.


See it here: http://redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/ai...l?prodID=27939

[AngelusNex]

Well that's stupid they only come in M170.

[ShelledPants]

Originally Posted by AngelusNex

Well that's stupid they only come in M170.

Better to buy a gearbox designed for higher fps and lower it, than to increase the fps on a lower end gearbox.

[Shirley]

Stupid how players think their guns are too heavy..
Just saving a few grams switching it over to carbon fibre, and it's expensive..

[Kos-Mos]

Originally Posted by Mr.Hitman

Stupid how players think their guns are too heavy..
Just saving a few grams switching it over to carbon fibre, and it's expensive..

The lighter the gears are, the faster the trigger response will be for the same voltage. That is the reason.

You get the same stengh with half the mass to move.

Not sure? Take a steel 15" wheel and tire and push it to roll.
Do the same with an alloy racing mag with the SAME tire. A lot easier.

In rotationla parts, the lighter it is, the faster it works.

[Thenooblord]

he said the SAME tire, so same diameter, he is referring to the weight of the steel vs the mag, not the size

[scurvythepirate]

Originally Posted by AngelusNex

Well that's stupid they only come in M170.

A hell of a lot more came out, M100, M120 and M150.
http://redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/ai...ceSearchResult

[hutch1970]

I wonder how well this box will hold up to m170? I wonder if the gears are any quieter?

[SHÖCK]

Originally Posted by hutch1970

I wonder how well this box will hold up to m170? I wonder if the gears are any quieter?

Helical gears = quieter and slightly more torque
Carbon fibre sector gear = less mass on the sector gear, less extra inertia after each cycle, etc. and probably quieter as well. The whole design seems to also try to address piston wear too.
I think it will work well with m170. Too bad nobody is will to play at those speeds (with adequate protection) unless you are in Russia or the Phillipines.

The point of carbon fibre reinforced gears has nothing to do with how heavy your gun is. It has to do with reducing the mass of the gears while retaining strength. This has to do with how efficient the mechbox cycles, your trigger response, and reducing the extra wear and tear that comes from the remaining unnecessary momentum of heavy gears spinning on each cycle being braked suddenly (often the cause of gear teeth damage).