Adjusting My Red Dot Sight.

highny · July 16th, 2009, 16:36

I've been having problems adjusting my front sight...

When I'm shooting 3-4 meters away from my target, my shots are always under the red dot.

But when I move back another 1-2 meters, my shots are always above the red dot.

My hop up is completely off and I use an ICS 41 A1 (M4).

Any help?

ujiro · July 16th, 2009, 16:38

Well you need to use your hop up to make your BB have a level flight path. Why try adjusting your red dot sight to the BB's trajectory with no hop up?

Danke · July 16th, 2009, 16:45

Try to zero your sight at around 50-60 feet.

ILLusion · July 16th, 2009, 16:46

You're experiencing what's called "Parallax."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallax

Basically, you're comparing two different trajectories... at some point, they will meet in the middle, but when you're trying to zero at such a close range, if you try to hit a target out at 150 feet, you'll be so far off your RDS picture, that you won't even know where the BB is. It'll be right out of your sight picture.

There's no point in zeroing at 3-4 metres, because you'll almost never shoot a target that close, and it will give a very extreme parallax difference between your sight trajectory and your actual shot trajectory. The *minimum* distance you should be zeroing in at is 30 feet, ideally 50 or even 70 feet.

ShelledPants · July 16th, 2009, 16:49

Hop doesn't effect bb's until about 30feet out... which is about 10 meters.

My suggestion.

1. Get a straight area to the target of about 75feet (20M)
2. Adjust your hop so that the BB will curve upwards a bit before hitting the target, don't bother with your iron sights yet.
3. When you get the bb flying straight-ish with the hop. Adjust your irons until your bb strikes where you aim with the irons.
4. Now adjust your red dot so that when looking through the rear sight, you can see the red dot in line with the front sight.
5. Now when you look over your rear sight, your red dot will be above your front sight, but should still be on target with where you are aiming.

Danke · July 16th, 2009, 16:50

And after you've done what the guys up top here say, zero your iron sights also.

highny · July 16th, 2009, 17:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShelledPants

Hop doesn't effect bb's until about 30feet out... which is about 10 meters.

My suggestion.

1. Get a straight area to the target of about 75feet (20M)
2. Adjust your hop so that the BB will curve upwards a bit before hitting the target, don't bother with your iron sights yet.
3. When you get the bb flying straight-ish with the hop. Adjust your irons until your bb strikes where you aim with the irons.
4. Now adjust your red dot so that when looking through the rear sight, you can see the red dot in line with the front sight.
5. Now when you look over your rear sight, your red dot will be above your front sight, but should still be on target with where you are aiming.

The sad part is, I already saw off the front sight because the scope was too low compare to the front and rare sight's line of sight.

Is there something else I could do?

ShelledPants · July 16th, 2009, 17:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by highny

The sad part is, I already saw off the front sight because the scope was too low compare to the front and rare sight's line of sight.

Is there something else I could do?

lol wut?

What gun are you using?

highny · July 16th, 2009, 17:42

A ICS 41 A1, aka M4.

dpvu · July 16th, 2009, 17:48

You didn't have to saw off the front sight... A rail riser or carry handle mount would have done the trick. In any case, you're using a range that's too short to zero. You can still use ShelledPants' instructions, just omit the lining it up with iron sights part. Once the hop is set properly, use paper targets to see where the point of impact of your BBs are and adjust the red dot to meet that.

ShelledPants · July 16th, 2009, 17:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by dpvu

You didn't have to saw off the front sight... A rail riser or carry handle mount would have done the trick. In any case, you're using a range that's too short to zero. You can still use ShelledPants' instructions, just omit the lining it up with iron sights part. Once the hop is set properly, use paper targets to see where the point of impact of your BBs are and adjust the red dot to meet that.

Without the ironsights... you'd need to strap the gun to a table to match the red dot with the bb impact.

highny · July 16th, 2009, 18:06

Oh man. Should of post a forum before I act next time. Thanks guys/gals. I'll update once i get the chance.

SnapBack · July 16th, 2009, 19:48

LOL

Mitchell12 · July 16th, 2009, 19:51

This reminds me of that picture where the guy sawed off some tabs on his GFX card so it'd fit in the slot :P

highny · July 17th, 2009, 16:10

Alright, so I tested my gun out today and it seems there's another problem appear.

When I fire my bb while looking through my red dot scope, the bb look like it's going in an arc motion. But when I push the hop up down a bit, it's almost look like it's going in an long "s" shape....

Like, from the looks of it thhrough my scope, it goes up a bit, then falls down a bit, and then the hop up comes into play...

Maybe it's the way I'm holding the gun that's giving me the error, any help is appreciated.

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July 16th, 2009, 16:36	#1
highny Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Calgary	Adjusting My Red Dot Sight. I've been having problems adjusting my front sight... When I'm shooting 3-4 meters away from my target, my shots are always under the red dot. But when I move back another 1-2 meters, my shots are always above the red dot. My hop up is completely off and I use an ICS 41 A1 (M4). Any help?

July 16th, 2009, 16:38	#2
ujiro Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Burlington, ON	Well you need to use your hop up to make your BB have a level flight path. Why try adjusting your red dot sight to the BB's trajectory with no hop up? __________________ I love freedom and consequently America

July 16th, 2009, 16:45	#3
Danke Prancercise Guru Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Danger Zone	Try to zero your sight at around 50-60 feet. __________________ Airsoft, where nothing is hurt but feelings.

July 16th, 2009, 16:46	#4
ILLusion GBB Whisperer Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Toronto	You're experiencing what's called "Parallax." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallax Basically, you're comparing two different trajectories... at some point, they will meet in the middle, but when you're trying to zero at such a close range, if you try to hit a target out at 150 feet, you'll be so far off your RDS picture, that you won't even know where the BB is. It'll be right out of your sight picture. There's no point in zeroing at 3-4 metres, because you'll almost never shoot a target that close, and it will give a very extreme parallax difference between your sight trajectory and your actual shot trajectory. The minimum distance you should be zeroing in at is 30 feet, ideally 50 or even 70 feet. __________________ *Advanced Airsoft Armaments and Enhancements* Quick to the gun, sure of your grip. Quick to the threat, sure of your shot. Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas Accuracy, Power, Speed

July 16th, 2009, 16:49	#5
ShelledPants Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Toronto, On	Hop doesn't effect bb's until about 30feet out... which is about 10 meters. My suggestion. 1. Get a straight area to the target of about 75feet (20M) 2. Adjust your hop so that the BB will curve upwards a bit before hitting the target, don't bother with your iron sights yet. 3. When you get the bb flying straight-ish with the hop. Adjust your irons until your bb strikes where you aim with the irons. 4. Now adjust your red dot so that when looking through the rear sight, you can see the red dot in line with the front sight. 5. Now when you look over your rear sight, your red dot will be above your front sight, but should still be on target with where you are aiming. __________________ Ár skal r?*sa, sá er annars vill fé eða fjör hafa. Sjaldan liggjandi úlfur lær um getur né sofandi maður sigur.

July 16th, 2009, 16:50	#6
Danke Prancercise Guru Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Danger Zone	And after you've done what the guys up top here say, zero your iron sights also. __________________ Airsoft, where nothing is hurt but feelings.

July 16th, 2009, 17:42	#9
highny Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Calgary	A ICS 41 A1, aka M4.

July 16th, 2009, 17:48	#10
dpvu Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Calgary	You didn't have to saw off the front sight... A rail riser or carry handle mount would have done the trick. In any case, you're using a range that's too short to zero. You can still use ShelledPants' instructions, just omit the lining it up with iron sights part. Once the hop is set properly, use paper targets to see where the point of impact of your BBs are and adjust the red dot to meet that. __________________ JG HK416 KWA USP

July 16th, 2009, 18:06	#12
highny Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Calgary	Oh man. Should of post a forum before I act next time. Thanks guys/gals. I'll update once i get the chance.

July 16th, 2009, 19:48	#13
SnapBack a.k.a. Bloodlust Trader rating Join Date: May 2008 Location: Edmonton	LOL

July 17th, 2009, 16:10	#15
highny Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Calgary	Alright, so I tested my gun out today and it seems there's another problem appear. When I fire my bb while looking through my red dot scope, the bb look like it's going in an arc motion. But when I push the hop up down a bit, it's almost look like it's going in an long "s" shape.... Like, from the looks of it thhrough my scope, it goes up a bit, then falls down a bit, and then the hop up comes into play... Maybe it's the way I'm holding the gun that's giving me the error, any help is appreciated.

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