Duster: tetraflourothane, or not diflourethane

kar120c · June 6th, 2009, 10:17

In the faq http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=2591 is racomendet to use Duster with tetraflourothane and not diflourethane. What are the differences? in what way I recognise onte from the other?
All my duster cans are labelled with "air" duster spray" and nothing about their chemical composition

Chingyul · June 6th, 2009, 11:48

Diflouroethane is suppose to degrade your seals.

The cans should list the chemical. You just have to read the fine print on the back
It's getting harder and harder to find tetra though (at least it was last time I looked).

kar120c · June 6th, 2009, 12:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chingyul

Diflouroethane is suppose to degrade your seals.

The cans should list the chemical. You just have to read the fine print on the back
It's getting harder and harder to find tetra though (at least it was last time I looked).

I live in Italy and cans I owned reported only generic purpose description.
Are you saing that today's dusters contains only Diflourethane? So it's no safe to use duster

L473ncy · June 6th, 2009, 12:18

I believe the only way to get tetra is through a corporate or commercial supplier as you can't get them from Costco, BB, FS, or your local office supply store anymore. I think the reason being is due to kids sniffing the fumes to get high. There is now also an added bitterant to discourage sniffing.

On the back of mine where it says "FIRST AID TREATMENT": Contains difluroethane. So just check on the label. By law I believe they are required to label the ingredients. My duster is the Costco 6 pack one BTW (Falcon Safety).

SINN · June 6th, 2009, 12:24

I believe MG chemicals still makes Super Duster 134 Tetrafluoroethane.

Link: http://www.active123.com/eng/storeSe...ategorylevel2=

kar120c · June 6th, 2009, 12:26

in one of my can the print says: "not flammable", on one other, is written "higly flammable".
Is this an advisory that one can contain one gas or another?

Sully · June 6th, 2009, 12:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by kar120c

in one of my can the print says: "not flammable", on one other, is written "higly flammable".
Is this an advisory that one can contain one gas or another?

to some extent yes it is. R-134a(Tetraflouroethane) is non-flammable and is a non-ozone depleting substance so it should be easier to get your hands on. Diflouroethane and Chlorofloroethane (R-22 and R-12 respectively) are flammable to a degree but the biggest concern for them is the fact that if they get too hot they release Phosgene gas which is nasty stuff. These 2 should be getting a little tricker to get your hands on in the near future if not already as they are becoming banned substances due to their ozone depleting properties.

lemegacool · June 6th, 2009, 13:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by SINN

I believe MG chemicals still makes Super Duster 134 Tetrafluoroethane.

Link: http://www.active123.com/eng/storeSe...ategorylevel2=

yep... thats the one i use, i buy it at my local electronic part surplus

Crunchmeister · June 6th, 2009, 14:56

Difluoroethane will eat your seals, so don't use it. The only safe duster gas is tetrafluoroethane.

Out of curiosity, which gun are you using? If it's a TM or KSC, they're safe to use with green gas / propane as well, and you'll get a big performance increase.

hattrick · June 6th, 2009, 16:06

The source still sells tetra. (for those in canaduh)

kar120c · June 6th, 2009, 17:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crunchmeister

Difluoroethane will eat your seals, so don't use it. The only safe duster gas is tetrafluoroethane.

Out of curiosity, which gun are you using? If it's a TM or KSC, they're safe to use with green gas / propane as well, and you'll get a big performance increase.

I have a TM Detonics. It performs very well with Green gas if temperature is not much than 21/22°c , but for summer use Green Gas has much pressure. I misured it and at 26°c the pressure was 10/11 bar

kar120c · June 6th, 2009, 17:32

Today I shot 3/4 magazines with Duster.
I used my "not flammable" duster but if it was Difluoroethane, I should already have damaged my seals?

coach · June 6th, 2009, 23:58

tetrafluoroethane =

coach · June 6th, 2009, 23:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by kar120c

Today I shot 3/4 magazines with Duster.
I used my "not flammable" duster but if it was Difluoroethane, I should already have damaged my seals?

from a one time use, no. just discontinue using it. tetrafluoroethane or propane (GG) only

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June 6th, 2009, 10:17	#1
kar120c Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: La Spezia, Italy	Duster: tetraflourothane, or not diflourethane In the faq http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=2591 is racomendet to use Duster with tetraflourothane and not diflourethane. What are the differences? in what way I recognise onte from the other? All my duster cans are labelled with "air" duster spray" and nothing about their chemical composition

June 6th, 2009, 11:48	#2
Chingyul Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Calgary, Alberta	Diflouroethane is suppose to degrade your seals. The cans should list the chemical. You just have to read the fine print on the back It's getting harder and harder to find tetra though (at least it was last time I looked). __________________ Archived Buy/Sell Rating

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L473ncy Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: 11-30-24-1W5	I believe the only way to get tetra is through a corporate or commercial supplier as you can't get them from Costco, BB, FS, or your local office supply store anymore. I think the reason being is due to kids sniffing the fumes to get high. There is now also an added bitterant to discourage sniffing. On the back of mine where it says "FIRST AID TREATMENT": Contains difluroethane. So just check on the label. By law I believe they are required to label the ingredients. My duster is the Costco 6 pack one BTW (Falcon Safety). __________________ ಠ_ಠLess QQ more Pew Pew READY TO >> RACE

June 6th, 2009, 12:24	#5
SINN Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Toronto	I believe MG chemicals still makes Super Duster 134 Tetrafluoroethane. Link: http://www.active123.com/eng/storeSe...ategorylevel2= __________________ MODT - Magnus Operator Development Team - tu fui ego eris Last edited by SINN; June 6th, 2009 at 12:27..

June 6th, 2009, 12:26	#6
kar120c Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: La Spezia, Italy	in one of my can the print says: "not flammable", on one other, is written "higly flammable". Is this an advisory that one can contain one gas or another?

June 6th, 2009, 14:56	#9
Crunchmeister Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: In your bedroom going though your underwear drawer	Difluoroethane will eat your seals, so don't use it. The only safe duster gas is tetrafluoroethane. Out of curiosity, which gun are you using? If it's a TM or KSC, they're safe to use with green gas / propane as well, and you'll get a big performance increase. __________________

June 6th, 2009, 17:32	#12
kar120c Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: La Spezia, Italy	Today I shot 3/4 magazines with Duster. I used my "not flammable" duster but if it was Difluoroethane, I should already have damaged my seals?

June 6th, 2009, 23:58	#13
coach aka coachster Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: T dot	tetrafluoroethane =

Duster: tetraflourothane, or not diflourethane

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