Questions about TF11

[sortie39]

could anyone tell me that why it exhausts CO2 so fast when u put auto-,
its gona run out all the co2 gas even in 20 s, whats the internal design for the auto-shooting? probably the strong blowback takes all energy...?or something else.
btw,has someone shot other types of Uzi,for instance,mainly the KSC's and the KWC's ,the same thing happens when u try auto on both Uzi?.(after all ksc is powered by hfc134,i guess not).
finaly, i really dont figure out that what kind of uzi the TF11 is? if we say its a clone of ksc with a changed operating system,but why it doesnt come with a folding stock with itself inside the package?
so TF11,sounds fantastic!

[Wrath144]

Its not an UZI its a Mac 11.

[lemegacool]

it dies fast because the co2 is expanding too fast in the powerlet, cooling it down and lowering the pressure, by shooting it semi the gas is having more time to expand. the tf11 is a rebrand of the maruzen desing

[sortie39]

maruzen m11?really,but why no stock and co2 powered,i would choose the short mag rather than the sucked long mag...

[lemegacool]

co2 powered is just a new design of mag, i'm pretty sure maruzen propane mags will work on the tf11, and no stock? i dont know but there is slots at the back to put one

here is a maruzen mag http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/maruzen-m...-m11-50rd.html

and here down the page there is pics of the tf11 mags http://www.airsoftretreat.com/forums...5716.msg588583

i dont know but to me they are identic at the maruzen ones!

[Crunchmeister]

If you keep your fire short 3-4 round bursts of full auto (the way you should be shooting it even if it was a real gun), you can get 100 rounds - 2 full mags - out of 1 CO2 powerlet. Considering that with most CO2 powered airsoft guns (the cheap ones that don't have blowback) you can get about 100-120 shots per powerlet, that's not bad at all. It's actually got really good gas consumption. If you go nuts with long bursts, then you're only going to get about 75 shots because of cooldown.

[lemegacool]

with mine i can do nearly 3 full mags on semi

[Crunchmeister]

Yeah, on semi I can get about 140-ish shots out of it. That's pretty damn good considering the gun shoots 350 fps and has blowback too.

[sortie39]

how about the HFC134 or green gas powered?anyone tried auto-shot before? they gonna be run out as fast as co2 as well???

[lemegacool]

yes because they operate in the same way as the co2 ones , hmmm i think i will order a green gas mag in my next ehobby order just to try how it perform on the tf11

[Crunchmeister]

Any gas gun will run through gas quickly when used with sustained bursts of full auto. Cooldown is unavoidable when a compressed liquid expands rapidly to gas. The only way to get lots of shots without excessive cooldown is if you have an exernally powered gun with a hose and a large gas cannister. 134a and propane / green gas are even worse than CO2 because they're at a much lower pressure to start with.

Originally Posted by lemegacool

yes because they operate in the same way as the co2 ones , hmmm i think i will order a green gas mag in my next ehobby order just to try how it perform on the tf11

Be sure to let me know how that works out. If it does, I'll get some of those mags too. Propane is so much cheaper than CO2.

[lemegacool]

will do crunch, should place the order tomorrow

[Crunchmeister]

Thanks man. I had been told that the HFC M11 mags worked in these as well. Ordered one last summer, but they weren't even close to being the right size. Hope these mags fit They're shorter and cheaper to run than CO2.

[sortie39]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0mu3Lafdkc
watch this,bud~~the auto of this kwc uzi sounds so cool that i get some feeling of shooting a real uzi on the range~~

[White_knight]

so much broken glass