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Old January 14th, 2009, 17:34   #1
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I was just wondering cuz now we're only allowed cansoft, was there a time before when we were allowed to import from TM and CA and stuff?
Or else how do ppl on FS section have these guns?

If this is true, is it possible still to import any from TM?
Like I know you can get a permit or special liscence to import them, but is it possible?
Cuz there doesn't seem to be a lot of TM G36c's left out there, at least not in really good condition...

help appreciateddddd
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Old January 14th, 2009, 17:40   #2
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Rather than repost the info, there the link to answer your questions.

Importing Airsoft into Canada
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Old January 14th, 2009, 17:43   #3
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Long story short, replica firearms have only been illegal by law since 1998.

It took a number of years for the government agencies responsible to execute the new law to decide whether airsoft guns were replica firearms.

It then took them a number of years more to figure out that some businesses were importing airsoft guns and selling them, when they shouldn't be. This led to a game of cat and mouse between the Canada Customs and airsoft importers that continues to this day.

No, it's not possible for you get get the appropriate authorization to import airsoft guns. They are only available for a very small list of purposes, and playing airsoft is not one of them.
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Old January 14th, 2009, 17:48   #4
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Long story short, replica firearms have only been illegal by law since 1998.

It took a number of years for the government agencies responsible to execute the new law to decide whether airsoft guns were replica firearms.

It then took them a number of years more to figure out that some businesses were importing airsoft guns and selling them, when they shouldn't be. This led to a game of cat and mouse between the Canada Customs and airsoft importers that continues to this day.

No, it's not possible for you get get the appropriate authorization to import airsoft guns. They are only available for a very small list of purposes, and playing airsoft is not one of them.

so... basically new tm's... new ca's... they will basically slowly be weeded out of existance? lol as we use the existing ones already in canada and they just get older and blah blah...
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Old January 14th, 2009, 17:50   #5
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You're Age Verified, so you have access to the retailers section. Feel free to contect one of them to see what they can do you you. New black guns come in all the time, you just have to be AV'd to get access to them here.
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Old January 14th, 2009, 17:51   #6
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I was just wondering cuz now we're only allowed cansoft, was there a time before when we were allowed to import from TM and CA and stuff?
Or else how do ppl on FS section have these guns?

If this is true, is it possible still to import any from TM?
Like I know you can get a permit or special liscence to import them, but is it possible?
Cuz there doesn't seem to be a lot of TM G36c's left out there, at least not in really good condition...

help appreciateddddd
When end users WERE allowed to import airsoft, Classic Army didn't even exist...
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Old January 14th, 2009, 17:53   #7
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I said people are still bringing new guns into Canada despite the legal situation.

The lack of new TM G36s in the market is more likely the result of competition from other brands. Less and less people ask for them, so fewer are imported.
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Old January 14th, 2009, 17:58   #8
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You're Age Verified, so you have access to the retailers section. Feel free to contect one of them to see what they can do you you. New black guns come in all the time, you just have to be AV'd to get access to them here.
Ah.. k but so are they gonna be importing through illegal ways, or with a BFL?

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When end users WERE allowed to import airsoft, Classic Army didn't even exist...
oh lol XD so that means either ppl are still smuggling them in or someone has a BFL?O_O

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I said people are still bringing new guns into Canada despite the legal situation.

The lack of new TM G36s in the market is more likely the result of competition from other brands. Less and less people ask for them, so fewer are imported.
tru tru JG is kinda comprimising it haha...

one more question... I don't understand the 407 fps thing...
so at 407 they become airguns... soo... do you need a PAL? or is that for only airguns over 500
but u have to pay shipping and chrono fees right
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Old January 14th, 2009, 18:06   #9
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A Business Firearms Licence does not allow one to sell replica firearms to the public. To use a BFL to import airsoft gun and then sell them to the public is a criminal offence.

The 407fps is a complex issue that newbies should stay well away from. It doesn't help you.
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Old January 14th, 2009, 18:07   #10
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A Business Firearms Licence does not allow one to sell replica firearms to the public. To use a BFL to import airsoft gun and then sell them to the public is a criminal offence.

The 407fps is a complex issue that newbies should stay well away from. It doesn't help you.
so summing all of this up...

there is no real way to legally bring these guns in...
ppl just sometimes do it by luck?
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Old January 14th, 2009, 18:10   #11
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Correct, there is no real legal way to bring in replica firearms as consumer goods.

I don't know if I'd call it luck. There's more to it than simple probability. It really is something you shouldn't bother worrying about, though.
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Old January 14th, 2009, 18:11   #12
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*SIGH*

really love them tm guns XD haha
such a shame...

is there any movements to legalize it?
or i think we should start one =]
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Old January 14th, 2009, 18:20   #13
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Legalizing airsoft is not an idea to be casually tossed about.

Many newbies have had very short stays here on ASC, because they spent most of their time arguing that there should be some sort of legalization moment without actually having any notion of what's involved.

In the end, if you need to ask about the legal history of airsoft guns in Canada, you're the last person that should be suggesting a moment to legalize it. No offence intended.
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Old January 14th, 2009, 19:25   #14
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it's okay

none taken
i am a nuubie after all and i'm not relaly serious about the movement
but i'd like to know more about the history =S
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Old January 15th, 2009, 01:16   #15
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thats the point, newbies come on here, toss that around and arent really serious about it. also, you may say you love tm (curious have you ever owned or held a tm?) but what the problem is, is the price. when you can get the same gun for cheaper, you go for that. when i got my tm p90, TM didn't live up to it hype in my mind.
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