M16 firing problem

Strelok · August 16th, 2008, 03:20

Hello, Scharfs got more m16 woes to cry over :\.

Alright, It sounds like there is something wrong with my gearbox or something, Whenever I fire in:

Semi : Sounds like its going "pa-pop', or firing twice. making two solid snaps with one triggerpull. sometimes it fires without the inconsistant noise.

Full auto : Sounds like the piston is just 'bouncing around' with each shot. Again with the two noises per shot. I'm starting to think a tooth is broken.

Though, i'm just curious if this is a motor alignment problem, I'm just ruling out a few things before i delve into the depths of my v2 gearbox.
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dpvu · August 16th, 2008, 03:35

I think a gear did break. I doubt it's a motor alignment issue and even if it was it's progressed far beyond that. Open the bugger up and you'll see what's wrong right away I'm sure.

m102404 · August 16th, 2008, 10:16

I'll guess that the anti reversal latch isn't catching...and the 2nd sound you're hearing are the gears unwinding.

I'd be sure to check that the antireversal latch spring is ok and that it's not jammed up in a gear or wedged in the corner of the mechbox.

Strelok · August 16th, 2008, 14:51

Well, my Spur gear is missing a tooth and my pistons teeth are worn down pretty bad. i'll be sure to replace those.
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Skladfin · August 16th, 2008, 15:03

seems like your having quite a bit of problem with your gun

id part it out and just buy a new one myself but oh well

Strelok · August 16th, 2008, 17:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skladfin

seems like your having quite a bit of problem with your gun

id part it out and just buy a new one myself but oh well

Well, if buying a new spur gear and piston doesnt do the job, I will prolly get rid of it. We'll see.

Any tips/oppinions on what piston/gear brand I should look into? I'm thinking of just getting a replacement gear from TM.
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Muffin · August 16th, 2008, 17:34

What make is your gun?

Strelok · August 16th, 2008, 19:17

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Originally Posted by Muffin

What make is your gun?

Its a tokyo marui, but its since been turned into a frankenstein gun with all of the aftermarket parts i've stuffed in it.
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TokyoSeven · August 16th, 2008, 19:19

Its been noted that to many mish mash parts from other companies can lead to issues.

Strelok · August 16th, 2008, 19:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by TokyoSeven

Its been noted that to many mish mash parts from other companies can lead to issues.

Yeah, i know. But i'm determined to get this thing rocking, We'll see when I get the new internals.
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TokyoSeven · August 16th, 2008, 19:29

Well I wish you best of luck on getting it up and running. I say go with original TM gears.
But well thats just a suggestion based on not knowing what is all in your mechbox, spring, piston and such.

Strelok · August 16th, 2008, 19:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by TokyoSeven

Well I wish you best of luck on getting it up and running. I say go with original TM gears.
But well thats just a suggestion based on not knowing what is all in your mechbox, spring, piston and such.

Thats what I plan on doing. Airsoftparts.ca have a bunch of replacement parts for the TM v2 gearbox. Just unsure what piston i should use.
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TokyoSeven · August 16th, 2008, 19:38

Personally I find that theres nothing wrong with stock, as long as the spring your running isnt to strong. As just a suggestion, a prometheus piston is a great quality piston, however it can run you a small chunk more than other companies. Other options are systema and modify to name a few, some people have stated that the systema polycarb red is a terrible piston. There is a thread about it somewhere on here, however I have never had any issues with the systema red and have run set ups ranging between 280FPS all the way up to 480FPS without issue.

dpvu · August 16th, 2008, 19:51

The Modify polycarbonate piston is the best one I've used. I've broken a stock TM, stock ICS and Deepfire pistons before. The Modify one was still going strong on an upgraded spring (Modify S110+) for over 2000 rounds before I sold my ICS M4. The JG HK416 I have now also came with a Modify polycarbonate piston and it's holding up strong at 380 FPS although I can't say how many rounds have been put through it since I'm the third owner.

Renegade) · August 16th, 2008, 20:10

+1, I use Stock TM gears in all my guns, heaviest spring is a Prom MS120 and no issues pulling the spring or wearing thus far. Run smoother too, had some gay helicals in there and took em out, stuffed them in the furthest corner of my drawer and thats where they stay, couldnt stand the whiney, hard to adjust sound of them.

Just stick to simple or go all out and put Systema and Prometheus in ur mech like I did, otherwise ur gonna run into a mesh of problems as said.

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August 16th, 2008, 03:20	#1
Strelok Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Brandon Manitoba	M16 firing problem Hello, Scharfs got more m16 woes to cry over :\. Alright, It sounds like there is something wrong with my gearbox or something, Whenever I fire in: Semi : Sounds like its going "pa-pop', or firing twice. making two solid snaps with one triggerpull. sometimes it fires without the inconsistant noise. Full auto : Sounds like the piston is just 'bouncing around' with each shot. Again with the two noises per shot. I'm starting to think a tooth is broken. Though, i'm just curious if this is a motor alignment problem, I'm just ruling out a few things before i delve into the depths of my v2 gearbox. ________ Ship Sale Last edited by Strelok; April 11th, 2011 at 12:07..

August 16th, 2008, 03:35	#2
dpvu Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Calgary	I think a gear did break. I doubt it's a motor alignment issue and even if it was it's progressed far beyond that. Open the bugger up and you'll see what's wrong right away I'm sure. __________________ JG HK416 KWA USP

August 16th, 2008, 14:51	#4
Strelok Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Brandon Manitoba	Well, my Spur gear is missing a tooth and my pistons teeth are worn down pretty bad. i'll be sure to replace those. ________ YAMAHA CP300 SPECIFICATIONS Last edited by Strelok; April 11th, 2011 at 12:07..

August 16th, 2008, 10:16	#3
m102404 Tys Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Toronto	I'll guess that the anti reversal latch isn't catching...and the 2nd sound you're hearing are the gears unwinding. I'd be sure to check that the antireversal latch spring is ok and that it's not jammed up in a gear or wedged in the corner of the mechbox.

August 16th, 2008, 15:03	#5
Skladfin Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Glace Bay, Nova Scotia	seems like your having quite a bit of problem with your gun id part it out and just buy a new one myself but oh well

August 16th, 2008, 17:34	#7
Muffin Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Manitoba	What make is your gun?

August 16th, 2008, 19:19	#9
TokyoSeven Red Wine & Adderall Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Saskatoon, SK	Its been noted that to many mish mash parts from other companies can lead to issues. __________________ "Its only a little bit on fire"

August 16th, 2008, 19:29	#11
TokyoSeven Red Wine & Adderall Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Saskatoon, SK	Well I wish you best of luck on getting it up and running. I say go with original TM gears. But well thats just a suggestion based on not knowing what is all in your mechbox, spring, piston and such. __________________ "Its only a little bit on fire"

August 16th, 2008, 19:38	#13
TokyoSeven Red Wine & Adderall Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Saskatoon, SK	Personally I find that theres nothing wrong with stock, as long as the spring your running isnt to strong. As just a suggestion, a prometheus piston is a great quality piston, however it can run you a small chunk more than other companies. Other options are systema and modify to name a few, some people have stated that the systema polycarb red is a terrible piston. There is a thread about it somewhere on here, however I have never had any issues with the systema red and have run set ups ranging between 280FPS all the way up to 480FPS without issue. __________________ "Its only a little bit on fire"

August 16th, 2008, 19:51	#14
dpvu Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Calgary	The Modify polycarbonate piston is the best one I've used. I've broken a stock TM, stock ICS and Deepfire pistons before. The Modify one was still going strong on an upgraded spring (Modify S110+) for over 2000 rounds before I sold my ICS M4. The JG HK416 I have now also came with a Modify polycarbonate piston and it's holding up strong at 380 FPS although I can't say how many rounds have been put through it since I'm the third owner. __________________ JG HK416 KWA USP

August 16th, 2008, 20:10	#15
Renegade) A Total Bastard Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Tottenham, Ontario	+1, I use Stock TM gears in all my guns, heaviest spring is a Prom MS120 and no issues pulling the spring or wearing thus far. Run smoother too, had some gay helicals in there and took em out, stuffed them in the furthest corner of my drawer and thats where they stay, couldnt stand the whiney, hard to adjust sound of them. Just stick to simple or go all out and put Systema and Prometheus in ur mech like I did, otherwise ur gonna run into a mesh of problems as said. __________________ W1-5

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