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Old May 27th, 2008, 22:08   #1
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Systema springs broke too often

Hello,

We have a problem, that systema M120S/M130S/M140 springs is not as good as they have to. Last time my teammates suffered from TWO broken M120S springs. Later my M130 broke. Past month there where near eight broken springs in my team. The main thing - that they are almost new!

As we found that springs are not really steel or stainless - it is some aluminium composite.

What springs do you use and how fas does it loose its tension? What is the best springs on the market? Armorers says that if airsoft companies will make real steel springs - it will be everlasting.
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Old May 27th, 2008, 22:10   #2
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break? what do you mean break? you mean they snapped?
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Old May 27th, 2008, 22:12   #3
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Should've melded them.



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Old May 27th, 2008, 22:15   #4
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Look into some springs made by modify, they appear to work very well and maintain a very consistent FPS even after many thousands of BBs. Modify is a very reliable parts company that has made some nifty items in the last little while.

http://www.airsoftparts.ca/store2/in...ex&cPath=66_82
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I can attest to this... http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=59674
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Old May 27th, 2008, 22:29   #6
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I heard some "Systema" spring is fake. someone foist it off on us. I have bought a "systema" M120 spring last year in china mainland.
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Old May 27th, 2008, 22:36   #7
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After some reading into Systema springs I've heard that, Systema being one of the older retailers of airsoft parts is more likely to have stocks which are much older. Though in never opened packages, the spring is still relatively open to the elements and becomes somewhat brittle after sitting on a shelf for a few years.

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Old May 27th, 2008, 23:19   #8
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my experience with systema springs was not a good one. i had an m120 in my ics that sagged from 380 fps down to 340 in less than 5,000rds. as recommended by "cook-off" from van, op-for i went with a madbull m110 ( blue) from www.airsoftparts.ca
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Old May 27th, 2008, 23:37   #9
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Never had any problems with SystemA springs or anyone i know... are you sure they are genuine? I saw a thread about fake SystemA parts made by our friendly Chinese cloners...
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Old May 27th, 2008, 23:41   #10
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I had that happen to a SystemA spring in my G&P M4A1 several years ago. Still have the spring in my parts been; since long before mention of "Friendly Chinese" ((cloners)) :P


SystemA like all companies can have slip ups, could have been something that slipped passed QC or possibly like all mechanical devices of any kind, have that chance to just fail.
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Old May 27th, 2008, 23:59   #11
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weird, I guess I will chrono my ICS next time i am up at the field just to see where mine stands, I have a m120s in it now and i think i put around 5000 rounds through it since new. I know I was shooting around 340-345 with .25s in it before.
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Old May 28th, 2008, 01:03   #13
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Look into some springs made by modify, they appear to work very well and maintain a very consistent FPS even after many thousands of BBs. Modify is a very reliable parts company that has made some nifty items in the last little while.

http://www.airsoftparts.ca/store2/in...ex&cPath=66_82
I swear by Modify springs now, after getting consistant and PREDICTABLE results in quite a few AEGs I've upgraded. And was shown test results by Jugglez that Modify did on a few M4s, installed a few parts including a few of their springs, chronied the guns, then chronied 30,000rds later, and all were within 3fps or so of their new fps. Add in they are soft (easier to install, higher rate of fire for their output, and easier on smaller mAh batteries).................. why use anything else? 320-330fps with the 90, and 370fps with the 100, both with bearing spring guides.................. I love them!!! Only springs I'm gonna stock for my bench now.
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Old May 28th, 2008, 01:09   #14
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I dislike modify when they first came out, now i recommend there springs over systema or any other since they have very predictable FPS

Zukoff I've had the exact same thing happen to my M110
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i copied and modified your pic,,and re-posted for clarity.

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