Another AK mod... need foregrip knowledge.

Non Credo · April 10th, 2008, 01:11

Okay guys whats up, got another mod for my weird AK that I could use some halp with. I want to put an X-47 rail kit, (http://redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/ai...l?prodID=23810)
meant for a full size AK47 on an AKS74UN. I have a normal AK lower receiver modded to fit on the 74UN now, so the rear of the rail system fitting Im not worried about, but the front.... hrmmm... I cannot tell from any pictures I can find, (yes I used google), whether or not the front of the foregrip screws into the outer barrel from the bottom, or mounts onto the ring-type thing that slides over the outer barrel. Also, the normal 47 foregrip is longer than the 74UN. If it simply screws in from the bottom, this is great, as it can screw into the hole I already have mounting my front sight block, (assuming threads and diameter are all equal....). If it is held in position by the ring thing, the I dont know... Ill have to find a way to mount the ring further forward on the outer barrel.

And I will be removing my 74UN's front sight block, so dont worry about telling me that the top of the front of the rail system will get in the way of the front sight, there wont be one. And I know the rail meant to go over the machinery cover will not fit with the 74UN rear sight, I will modify it to do so.

If anyone out there has an X-47 kit, pics or info would be of much help. Thanks much.

Amos · April 10th, 2008, 01:15

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Okay... Seriously.

What in the flying fuck are you going to mount on all those rails?

No AK deserves that monstrosity... Even a shitty crossman AK wanna-be.

ancorp · April 10th, 2008, 01:19

http://www.kingarms.com/productpage.asp?prodid=1158

Uses the lower handguard retainer (the "ring thing").

You will have to redrill the outer barrel mounting hole, granted that there's enough length for it to slide the entire barrel assembly far enough forward. And it will look horrendous without a front sight block.

I highly recommend you get an original AK-47 front end, and then cut out the space between the gas block and front sight, to keep the gun a bit shorter.

EDIT: Amos you really need to stop posting in every thread that mentions AK rails. It's getting real old. This guy posted the thread for help on installing AK parts, nothing else. Even if it's hideous, doesn't mean one can't pass on some advice.

Non Credo · April 10th, 2008, 01:54

ohhh... its cool. Im kind of doing this project to be rather ridiculous. And thanks for the info, ancorp. Didnt know what to call that "ring thing" hehe...

Amos · April 10th, 2008, 01:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Non Credo

ohhh... its cool. Im kind of doing this project to be rather ridiculous. And thanks for the info, ancorp. Didnt know what to call that "ring thing" hehe...

I see.

If you're going for ridiculous.. You need to find one of those AK Magwells that TM seems to be putting on their new V8 AK's...

...

Non Credo · April 10th, 2008, 02:01

!?!??? MAGWELLS?! on an AK?! omfg... you are correct sir, that sounds amazing. I need one.

Amos · April 10th, 2008, 02:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Non Credo

!?!??? MAGWELLS?! on an AK?! omfg... you are correct sir, that sounds amazing. I need one.

One sec, I'll try to find you a link.

Blah

I can't find it... I'll post it if I come across it again.

Non Credo · April 10th, 2008, 02:15

dammit.. that would be so pimp. I shall do some searching as well...

Amos · April 10th, 2008, 02:23

FOUND IT!

YouTube - Tokyo Marui New AEG AK74MN

Check out the AK in that video.. You need to get that abominable part.

Non Credo · April 10th, 2008, 03:01

ancorp, you know if it would be possible to remount my 74UN's lower handguard retainer forward of its current position on the outer barrel, and just buy the rail kit? And have it magically work?

Promant · April 13th, 2008, 18:12

Lower handguard is one thing, but outer barrel is another problem. It is to short for X47 rail system. For example, I have here AKSU with original front from real AK/AKM [rear sight base], but outer barrel is longer, made by me; to fit ak lower handguard [which is the same size like this one in X47 system]:

Another problem: X47 rail system required an imitation of gas pipe or real gas pipe from AK/AKM - otherwise you will have an empty space under upper ris.
To use an imitation or real gas pipe you need real AK front [rear sight base] and gas block or some kind of sight in front of X47.

This combination is rather necessary to put X47 as solid build part of your replica.

I also have X47 but on AKM tactical:

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April 10th, 2008, 01:11	#1
Non Credo Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: couch	Another AK mod... need foregrip knowledge. Okay guys whats up, got another mod for my weird AK that I could use some halp with. I want to put an X-47 rail kit, (http://redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/ai...l?prodID=23810) meant for a full size AK47 on an AKS74UN. I have a normal AK lower receiver modded to fit on the 74UN now, so the rear of the rail system fitting Im not worried about, but the front.... hrmmm... I cannot tell from any pictures I can find, (yes I used google), whether or not the front of the foregrip screws into the outer barrel from the bottom, or mounts onto the ring-type thing that slides over the outer barrel. Also, the normal 47 foregrip is longer than the 74UN. If it simply screws in from the bottom, this is great, as it can screw into the hole I already have mounting my front sight block, (assuming threads and diameter are all equal....). If it is held in position by the ring thing, the I dont know... Ill have to find a way to mount the ring further forward on the outer barrel. And I will be removing my 74UN's front sight block, so dont worry about telling me that the top of the front of the rail system will get in the way of the front sight, there wont be one. And I know the rail meant to go over the machinery cover will not fit with the 74UN rear sight, I will modify it to do so. If anyone out there has an X-47 kit, pics or info would be of much help. Thanks much. __________________

April 10th, 2008, 01:15	#2
Amos Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Japan	... Okay... Seriously. What in the flying fuck are you going to mount on all those rails? No AK deserves that monstrosity... Even a shitty crossman AK wanna-be. __________________ Custom Builds: FA3674U Krinkov G3SD6

April 10th, 2008, 01:19	#3
ancorp AK Guru Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Vaughan, Ontario (near Toronto)	http://www.kingarms.com/productpage.asp?prodid=1158 Uses the lower handguard retainer (the "ring thing"). You will have to redrill the outer barrel mounting hole, granted that there's enough length for it to slide the entire barrel assembly far enough forward. And it will look horrendous without a front sight block. I highly recommend you get an original AK-47 front end, and then cut out the space between the gas block and front sight, to keep the gun a bit shorter. EDIT: Amos you really need to stop posting in every thread that mentions AK rails. It's getting real old. This guy posted the thread for help on installing AK parts, nothing else. Even if it's hideous, doesn't mean one can't pass on some advice. __________________

April 10th, 2008, 01:54	#4
Non Credo Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: couch	ohhh... its cool. Im kind of doing this project to be rather ridiculous. And thanks for the info, ancorp. Didnt know what to call that "ring thing" hehe... __________________

April 10th, 2008, 02:01	#6
Non Credo Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: couch	!?!??? MAGWELLS?! on an AK?! omfg... you are correct sir, that sounds amazing. I need one. __________________

April 10th, 2008, 02:15	#8
Non Credo Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: couch	dammit.. that would be so pimp. I shall do some searching as well... __________________

April 10th, 2008, 02:23	#9
Amos Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Japan	FOUND IT! YouTube - Tokyo Marui New AEG AK74MN Check out the AK in that video.. You need to get that abominable part. __________________ Custom Builds: FA3674U Krinkov G3SD6

April 10th, 2008, 03:01	#10
Non Credo Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: couch	ancorp, you know if it would be possible to remount my 74UN's lower handguard retainer forward of its current position on the outer barrel, and just buy the rail kit? And have it magically work? __________________

April 13th, 2008, 18:12	#11
Promant Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Poland	Lower handguard is one thing, but outer barrel is another problem. It is to short for X47 rail system. For example, I have here AKSU with original front from real AK/AKM [rear sight base], but outer barrel is longer, made by me; to fit ak lower handguard [which is the same size like this one in X47 system]: Another problem: X47 rail system required an imitation of gas pipe or real gas pipe from AK/AKM - otherwise you will have an empty space under upper ris. To use an imitation or real gas pipe you need real AK front [rear sight base] and gas block or some kind of sight in front of X47. This combination is rather necessary to put X47 as solid build part of your replica. I also have X47 but on AKM tactical: Last edited by Promant; April 13th, 2008 at 18:17..

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