FPS Question

CamoGames · April 9th, 2008, 02:37

I am looking for some input from players on FPS limits for CQB.

I would like to know what you think the FPS should be for CQB. What limit are you willing to play at? how high? and should full face masks be optional?

Thank you

Donster · April 9th, 2008, 02:38

well from what i generally hear, fps is limited to 350 with .2 and full face mask is not required, but some form of eye protection is.

Firewalker · April 9th, 2008, 05:16

My personal preference is Cover up what you don't want hurt. Keep fps under 400 (on .2's) out of respect for other players. That's just me though. I tend to not feel 350 under all my gear. Mandatory eye protection is a must though.

Players are adults and should have enough of an understanding and acceptance of the risks involved to prevent their own injury.

TokyoSeven · April 9th, 2008, 06:13

On the topic of faces mask, as long as the person who is not using one understands what circumstances may arise from not wearing one, then its fine. Kinda like not wearing your seat belt. A person should wear one when driving, but if they dont and they get in an accident its their own damn fault.
Id still stress wearing one though.

For me I feel under 350 is fine, a limit is what it is, a limit. Its not a number that people have to have their guns at. Ive been short close and far with 350 during CQB and its not terrible. But my opinion on FPS is relative to whomever is firing. A person with good trigger control, I dont mind a little more higher FPS, a person with bad trigger control lower fps and hope to god they only use low caps. A person who BB hoses, well it would be prefered they throw their bbs by hand only.

Its your call Camo, opinions will vary from side to side. Some believe high is fine some will opt for low.

Maverick0 · April 9th, 2008, 11:55

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Originally Posted by TokyoSeven

On the topic of faces mask, as long as the person who is not using one understands what circumstances may arise from not wearing one, then its fine. Kinda like not wearing your seat belt. A person should wear one when driving, but if they dont and they get in an accident its their own damn fault.
Id still stress wearing one though.

For me I feel under 350 is fine, a limit is what it is, a limit. Its not a number that people have to have their guns at. Ive been short close and far with 350 during CQB and its not terrible. But my opinion on FPS is relative to whomever is firing. A person with good trigger control, I dont mind a little more higher FPS, a person with bad trigger control lower fps and hope to god they only use low caps. A person who BB hoses, well it would be prefered they throw their bbs by hand only.

Its your call Camo, opinions will vary from side to side. Some believe high is fine some will opt for low.

Well said, T7. I think the point many people are missing is that if it were decided that 350 is the maximum limit, it's just that, the max, not a guideline or an average. I've taken a 3 second burst to bare hands from 10 ft. away one of my first games... cqb limit here is 350 and the rentals are stock CA's, so fps on that shot was most likely around 330. All that did was make me laugh at how much I made that person jump when I came around the corner... and taught me I need gloves

Also, i'm sure some leeway could be given depending on player experience and demeanor.

CamoGames · April 9th, 2008, 12:41

I'm not sure what to think. Over 85 people have viewed this topic and 4 have replied. It's a subject that everyone that plays CQB has to deal with.

Either most feel this is a stupid question, or I've asked it wrong. Can someone tell me what I did wrong here?

Skladfin · April 9th, 2008, 12:44

you should wear a mask...

I don't know about you but I dont want holes on your face...

THEDRAVEN · April 9th, 2008, 12:46

350 max and eye wear is a must!

Capt. T/O · April 9th, 2008, 12:48

JOC and Calcity in Calgary, as you already know, limit CQBR FPS to 320, AND semi-auto only.

CamoGames · April 9th, 2008, 12:54

The question I most want answered is what fps speed you think is to high for CQB?

These are not questions that I personally need answered. I know what I would want, but I own a CQB facility and I want to find a speed that everyone can live with.

I have a big facility that players from three provinces play at and they have different thoughts on where that speed should be set. I'm getting thoughts from across the country to see what the general acceptable speed is.

Skladfin · April 9th, 2008, 12:58

350 or lower for sure

Mr. G36! · April 9th, 2008, 13:01

Personally, I think around 300fps is good for ICQB, and up to 350fps for general CQB. You'd probably want mouth protection for all ICQB games, but it your CQB game is outdoors, just keep your mouth shut and you probably don't NEED it.

Stock Marui AEGs are perfect for ICQB, since they max out at around 295fps. You don't need your BB to travel 400fps when your target is only fifteen feet away.

Dirtbag · April 9th, 2008, 13:06

It really depends on the players, we have an outdoor field with multiple buildings so kind of a mix of CQB and regular play. Our limit is 400 FPS with .20 and no minimum engagement range.

We require full masks for under 19, adults can make their own decision.

Beyond that we stress centre of mass shots, in 6 years we have had a few bleeders but no serious injury.

You need to look at your environment and see what the potential for someone getting hit in the face at close range is. If there is a good chance, require proper googles and some form of mouth guard. Rent full masks at worst.

But ultimately you have have to decide not the players, after all they all think it is cool to be at 400 FPS until they get hurt.

If I was running a pure CQB location, with little or no vegetation I would go around 350 to 370, that covers most reasonably upgraded guns. Those who went to 400 will be left out, but they can always rent.

CamoGames · April 9th, 2008, 13:19

I guess I should have mentioned this is inside a retired Hospital. The distances are from "in your face" to the longest hallways being over 160 feet long. Yes they are that long.

Nihil · April 9th, 2008, 13:26

Full face mask.
320 fps tops.
some even use semi only.

I'v really damaged peoples faces with 350 from 3 meters away...

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April 9th, 2008, 02:37	#1
CamoGames Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Melville, Saskatchewan	FPS Question I am looking for some input from players on FPS limits for CQB. I would like to know what you think the FPS should be for CQB. What limit are you willing to play at? how high? and should full face masks be optional? Thank you __________________ Counterfeit Combat Melville, Saskatchewan Operation Mason Relic Owner Last edited by CamoGames; April 9th, 2008 at 03:44..

April 9th, 2008, 05:16	#3
Firewalker Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba	My personal preference is Cover up what you don't want hurt. Keep fps under 400 (on .2's) out of respect for other players. That's just me though. I tend to not feel 350 under all my gear. Mandatory eye protection is a must though. Players are adults and should have enough of an understanding and acceptance of the risks involved to prevent their own injury. __________________

April 9th, 2008, 06:13	#4
TokyoSeven Red Wine & Adderall Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Saskatoon, SK	On the topic of faces mask, as long as the person who is not using one understands what circumstances may arise from not wearing one, then its fine. Kinda like not wearing your seat belt. A person should wear one when driving, but if they dont and they get in an accident its their own damn fault. Id still stress wearing one though. For me I feel under 350 is fine, a limit is what it is, a limit. Its not a number that people have to have their guns at. Ive been short close and far with 350 during CQB and its not terrible. But my opinion on FPS is relative to whomever is firing. A person with good trigger control, I dont mind a little more higher FPS, a person with bad trigger control lower fps and hope to god they only use low caps. A person who BB hoses, well it would be prefered they throw their bbs by hand only. Its your call Camo, opinions will vary from side to side. Some believe high is fine some will opt for low. __________________ "Its only a little bit on fire"

April 9th, 2008, 02:38	#2
Donster Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: GTA	well from what i generally hear, fps is limited to 350 with .2 and full face mask is not required, but some form of eye protection is.

April 9th, 2008, 12:41	#6
CamoGames Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Melville, Saskatchewan	I'm not sure what to think. Over 85 people have viewed this topic and 4 have replied. It's a subject that everyone that plays CQB has to deal with. Either most feel this is a stupid question, or I've asked it wrong. Can someone tell me what I did wrong here? __________________ Counterfeit Combat Melville, Saskatchewan Operation Mason Relic Owner

April 9th, 2008, 12:44	#7
Skladfin Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Glace Bay, Nova Scotia	you should wear a mask... I don't know about you but I dont want holes on your face...

April 9th, 2008, 12:46	#8
THEDRAVEN Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: winnipeg canada	350 max and eye wear is a must! __________________

April 9th, 2008, 12:48	#9
Capt. T/O Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2006	JOC and Calcity in Calgary, as you already know, limit CQBR FPS to 320, AND semi-auto only.

April 9th, 2008, 12:54	#10
CamoGames Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Melville, Saskatchewan	The question I most want answered is what fps speed you think is to high for CQB? These are not questions that I personally need answered. I know what I would want, but I own a CQB facility and I want to find a speed that everyone can live with. I have a big facility that players from three provinces play at and they have different thoughts on where that speed should be set. I'm getting thoughts from across the country to see what the general acceptable speed is. __________________ Counterfeit Combat Melville, Saskatchewan Operation Mason Relic Owner

April 9th, 2008, 12:58	#11
Skladfin Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Glace Bay, Nova Scotia	350 or lower for sure

April 9th, 2008, 13:01	#12
Mr. G36! Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Beautiful Thunder Bay, where dreams become nightmares!	Personally, I think around 300fps is good for ICQB, and up to 350fps for general CQB. You'd probably want mouth protection for all ICQB games, but it your CQB game is outdoors, just keep your mouth shut and you probably don't NEED it. Stock Marui AEGs are perfect for ICQB, since they max out at around 295fps. You don't need your BB to travel 400fps when your target is only fifteen feet away. __________________ Airsoft It's all fun and games until someone gets hurt...and then it becomes sport!

April 9th, 2008, 13:06	#13
Dirtbag Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2004	Depends on the players It really depends on the players, we have an outdoor field with multiple buildings so kind of a mix of CQB and regular play. Our limit is 400 FPS with .20 and no minimum engagement range. We require full masks for under 19, adults can make their own decision. Beyond that we stress centre of mass shots, in 6 years we have had a few bleeders but no serious injury. You need to look at your environment and see what the potential for someone getting hit in the face at close range is. If there is a good chance, require proper googles and some form of mouth guard. Rent full masks at worst. But ultimately you have have to decide not the players, after all they all think it is cool to be at 400 FPS until they get hurt. If I was running a pure CQB location, with little or no vegetation I would go around 350 to 370, that covers most reasonably upgraded guns. Those who went to 400 will be left out, but they can always rent.

April 9th, 2008, 13:19	#14
CamoGames Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Melville, Saskatchewan	I guess I should have mentioned this is inside a retired Hospital. The distances are from "in your face" to the longest hallways being over 160 feet long. Yes they are that long. __________________ Counterfeit Combat Melville, Saskatchewan Operation Mason Relic Owner

April 9th, 2008, 13:26	#15
Nihil Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2008	Full face mask. 320 fps tops. some even use semi only. I'v really damaged peoples faces with 350 from 3 meters away...

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