AEG to Spring Conversion??

[Dusti69]

im relatively new to airsoft. i dont really know a whole lot about it
there isnt really any kind of airsoft type things around here at all
i have a pretty low budget when shopping for my guns. i shop on ebay and i just cant affort the big several hundred dollar jg and marui guns. and since all the aegs that i have bought just quit working for no apparent reason i really want to just stick with my spring guns because they never let me down.

im just wondering if its possible to convert an aeg into a spring rifle
i bought one of these sl-8's and even though it wasnt all that powerful i just loved the gun and then the gearbox seized up and the battery basically exploded. yet i cant find a spring version of an sl8 anywhere. i suppose they dont exist. i really wish it was a spring rifle instead. its basically the same thing as our g36 type spring rifles. itd be cool if there was someway to take spring parts and put it into the sl-8
ok im just rambling on here. if anyone knows if this is even conceivably possible or if you even know of an existing spring sl-8 itd be real nice to hear your thoughts

[surebet]

First of all, are you in Canada or somewhere else? This might have an impact on the replies you get.

As far as conversions go, there is no limit for the man who knows how to wield a dremel, but in this case it might be more practical to simply replace the box in the gun for a more sturdy one. Browse the classifieds, you might be able to find good priced JG or DBOY boxes for under a hundred dollars.

As for the cost of a spring conversion, it varies greatly. Do you want this to be simply able to shoot a BB, or do you want it to shoot well? Acceptable spring conversions would cost more than a box in parts, great conversions would be batshit expensive, and in both case would require tinkering above anything I'd risk myself.

Mechbox =/= spring mechanism in terms of physical dimensions, so no drop in mods available AFAIK.

[kalnaren]

If you're not in Canada, (which judging by your profile, you're not) you may have some better luck on a US forum. Airsoft in Canada and the US varies greatly due to differences in laws and availability (and cost). For example, a Marui gun here costs us about $600 USD, and nobody here bothers with 'cheap' springers. Because of this you may not get answers that will help you. Having said that, spend the $$ on a good airsoft gun. If you don't, you'll keep getting crap. Airsoft very much follows the "you get what you pay for" rule, regardless of what country you are in.

You might want to try Airsoft Retreat. It's a US forum, generally has a lot of helpful information.

Cheers

[kalnaren]

Originally Posted by Dusti69

i was actually reccomended this forum by people living in the US
i got one here for the sole purpose of asking this question and i think you guys pretty much answered my basic question so thats pretty cool
yea springers. i guess you all look down on that sort of thing when youre into your 6 hundred dollar maruis and customized aegs you built yourself. im sorry i just dont have that kind of money. 60 bucks is pushing it for me. and really... like 5 and ten dollar spring rifles off of ebay by makers like double eagle and cyma they seem to me like im getting more for what little i paid for seeing as how yes theyre not broke when my 60 and 70 dollar both elephant and lorcin aegs crap out in a day or two after recieving them in the mail. i just think for the type of low level airsoft battles i may get into around here with friends and other people, a springer is gonna suit me perfectly cuz they no doubt with be having anything different. i really expect to see a lot of those gaywad clear soft air guns from walmart cuz thats the only place there is to buy an airsoft around here unless you do online stuff
im sorry if im bothering anyone on here but i would like to thank those of you who did give me a rather prompt answer and im just stoked that its possible even if i may never accomplish it. thanks guys

You're not bothering anyone at all. My remarks came from the fact that for us those "cheap" guns you described that always break would still cost us $200+, so nobody bothers with them. It's better for us to pay $600 for a Marui that will last than $200 for a shitty gun. You'll actually fund absolutly no retailers in Canada for those guns or cheap springers, because nobody here wants them -they're just too bloody expensive for what they are.

To answer your question, if spring guns work for you and your games, all the power to you. Like surebet said, if you have the skills, theoretically you should be able to convert a cheap AEG to a springer. You might have a look at what kind of internals those cheap wal-mart guns have, and how you may be able to use it as an example or port it to a better external body.

[surebet]

Um, since you are in the states you have access to a lot more cheap raw material than us, so it might be more feasible to try.

There still is a fundemental flaw in your plan though, the real SL8 doesn't have a cocking handle à la sniper handle, so whatever bolt power doner will wither have to be cocked via tha charging handle on the top of the gun (which is probably just a dummy on your gun...) or accept the fact that you'll have to move away from reality and have a charging handle on the side of the gun.

Other option, if the gun has a compatible v3 box, just fin a cheap donor and replace it.

Most cost effective solution? hang the gun on the wall, buy something else and move on. Project guns, even on the lower end, eats money like crazy.

[NickPoole]

Your in the US , you can get a nice big name gun for 200 down there where as we would have to pay probably 500+.. Just stop buying crappy guns and save for a good one , then you will have something that will actually last.

[Ronan]

If buying BB's is to expensive then I'm sorry but this might not be for you.

[JTF27]

In Halifax they are $20 for 4000.

[W0lf]

If you don't mind getting laughed at, Walmart has half decent ones that are $20 for 10000 I believe. I didn't really pay them much mind, I was getting biodegradeable ones. 5000 for $19.01

[Ronan]

Mine are like $25 for 800... lol

Recently been using BB Bastard, $10 for 2000 and they are good

Oh and those walmart BB's are beyond crap. Haven't use those in a very very very very very long time.

[kalnaren]

Originally Posted by Dusti69

it just doesnt seem worth it when youre gonna shoot and lose them. thats just why i like those red .12g ones that are 9.95 for like 6500
for just some backyard/woods skirmishes the price of .20's is a bit steep when you hardly get any compared to the .12's is what my point is
and i think the walmart ones work perfectly for a springer
the clear red and green ones by crossman i have though have been very good specially for the amount you get for the price. the glow in the dark tracer round bbs walmart sells for $3.95 for 2000 they in my opinion are the best ive seen from walmart. they are almost precision bbs
ive checked bbs on ebay you usually get a whole bunch for a really low price but then the shipping kills it youd end up paying more for less bbs than if youd went to walmart and picked up two containers of the glow in the dark bbs for roughly 8 bucks for 4000 of almost precision bbs
if you dont believe me you can stop at walmart and see if they have any of the tracers and see for yourself. you really dont have much to lose. i really dont think theyre as bad as everyone says

I see your point man, but your starting to come very close to what most of us consider "shitsoft". Airsoft, as we take it in Canada, involves the collection of functional firearm models either for looks or for semi-realistc skirmish/milsim. Neither can be accomplished with wal-mart guns. The high quality BBs are 1,000,000,000 times better than the .12's in every way shape and form. And BB's are dirt cheap. I go through maybe $50-$60 of BB's (0.25 weight) a season, give or take. Your talking about stuff that none of us use, and as such, you are not likely to find any support or good information for it on this forum. Airsoft is an expensive hobby, but it's WAY cheaper in the US than it is in here. If you spend the $250 on a TM, you won't regret it. Ever. Playing with cheap springers just doesn't do it. A good AEG isn't just a springer that fires faster -it's better in every way, shape, and form.

[Crunchmeister]

Originally Posted by NickPoole

Just stop buying crappy guns and save for a good one , then you will have something that will actually last.

I would have to agree here. You have access to guns at prices we'd LOVE to get. If you consider the money you spent buying shitty guns, you'd have a nice gun that would last you and give you no problems at all. Fuck, you can get a Jing Gong in the range of $100 or so. Get one. It will last you a hell of a lot longer than the garbage you're buying now.

[Brit ter]

Try Shorty USA they will have what your lookin for and there prices are great!

[Tombstone]

Is it possible to convert a GBB slightly damaged*** into a springer?
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[kalnaren]

It's not worth using .12's in anything but a cheap gun. .12's will ruin anything but a cheap gun.