Systema PTW on www.amazon.com !

[Xenos-Fear]

Yeah ! Here's the deal on the open market ! lol

Amazon.com: Systema m4a1

I'm surprised to see this so easily ! Anyway...

[Hectic]

Ya AIRSPLAT.COM and many US retailers use amazon and Ebay to sell there stuff

[Crunchmeister]

Too bad that they're not in Canada for that price, because I'd be owning one...

[Wilson]

Originally Posted by Crunchmeister

Too bad that they're not in Canada for that price, because I'd be owning one...

Definitely. For now I can't justify spending that much on a toy.

[SEALs]

funny to see that now our currency is worth as much as the USD yet our price havent been lowered. I have a hard time trying to figure out the 900$ difference in price range.

[SHaKaL]

You know... import fee, licenses, transport... blah blah blah etc... [/end sarcasm]

[Rock 'N' Roll Outlaw]

Tougher and more expensive regulations set in place to get them in the country. Correct me if I'm wrong but thats what I hear. That and lack of real competition.

[SHaKaL]

Originally Posted by Rock 'N' Roll Outlaw

lack of real competition.

Touché!

[Ronan]

No no, canadian PTW's come with fairy dust.

[Andres]

Originally Posted by Ronan

fairy dust.

Which has some INCREDIBLE problems with getting across the border I hear.

[AngelusNex]

they fear the fairy dust may be explosive and what not, last I heard terrorists were using it for their bomb powered drill so they could terrorize the center of the earth.... heh heh.... even if they succeeded the mole-men would've beaten em

[Wilson]

Originally Posted by SEALs

funny to see that now our currency is worth as much as the USD yet our price havent been lowered. I have a hard time trying to figure out the 900$ difference in price range.

They charge it because they know damn well we'll pay it - what other choice do we have? We're lucky its not twice as much as it is now! You can't fault them for doing so, either. This is how capitalism works, it thrives on opportunity.

If you want the prices to come down, we need the sport to grow. That way there'll be a bigger market, and the bigger the market the more competition will be economically possible - thus lowering the prices. When you move a relatively low volume of stock you have to keep your prices high to remain profitable. It's just the way the system works, guys.

So invite your friends to be a part of airsoft. Spread the word. People telling you that airsoft growing is a bad idea are fuckin' retards.

[SEALs]

I tought the fairy dust was crytal meth!

[Drache]

There was a Systema on the Vancouver's Craigslist awhile back.....

[mcguyver]

Originally Posted by Wilson

If you want the prices to come down, we need the sport to grow. That way there'll be a bigger market, and the bigger the market the more competition will be economically possible - thus lowering the prices. When you move a relatively low volume of stock you have to keep your prices high to remain profitable. It's just the way the system works, guys.

Your thinking is flawed. By your rationale, more players = more retailers opening up to supply them = more competition = lower prices. This could not ever happen in a legal way.

A actual scenario would be more players = more competition for scant resources = higher prices.

You can't just open up a legal business to import these thing just because the demand is there. The CFC doesn't give a shit about demand, and won't issue you a license to import just because. If this was the case, we'd still have 15 retailers in Canada, like we did up until mid-2006. Then, there was competition, but guess what, a Marui that cost $220 U.S. on Redwolf was still $450 here. And that was at a time when retailers skirted the law and were bringing in guns by the seacan (anybody remember the pictures of Peter Kang in front of the open seacan full of guns?)

So, as you see, bitching and moaning does nothing at all. Even if you were motivated enough to open a business to remedy the situation, you would get nowhere and nothing would change.

If it really bugs you that much, quit airsoft, because you can't do a thing to change it, unless you become PM with a majority and force the issue through Parliament.

And don't think for a second I wouldn't like to see price equity, but it won't happen with our legal framework. I've learned to accept it, as you can't fight it.