Waterloo Region Council - Pellet Guns

GraveTech · November 17th, 2007, 00:47

http://news.therecord.com/news/Local/article/266289

The news itself is a little old, but there is one interesting piece emerging from all of this:

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Coun. Sean Strickland of Waterloo asked regional councillors to support his request that the federal government amend legislation to include the licensing of pellet guns, air rifles and paintball guns that are currently exempt from federal laws.

Instead of banning pellet guns and air rifles etc., he wants them to be covered under the Firearms Act.

Is this the push we have been looking for?

ancorp · November 17th, 2007, 00:54

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Originally Posted by GraveTech

http://news.therecord.com/news/Local/article/266289

The news itself is a little old, but there is one interesting piece emerging from all of this:

Instead of banning pellet guns and air rifles etc., he wants them to be covered under the Firearms Act.

Is this the push we have been looking for?

If airsoft/replicas are on that list then yes, otherwise, actually... probably not.

White_knight · November 17th, 2007, 01:14

well if they are trying to push this, then couldnt we write to add airsoft to that list?

Coma · November 17th, 2007, 01:43

Been gone over time and time again. Should airsoft go under the Firearms Act, we'd be limited to semi only, five round mags, length limits, plus many models would be banned by name. Plus more.

szetor · November 17th, 2007, 02:22

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Originally Posted by Coma

Been gone over time and time again. Should airsoft go under the Firearms Act, we'd be limited to semi only, five round mags, length limits, plus many models would be banned by name. Plus more.

^ this post doesn't make sense at all...

Forever_kaos · November 17th, 2007, 02:28

^ He's saying IF airsoft was to get a go to fall under the fire arms act, we'd have a shit load of restrictions on our tails it wouldn't be funny... the crapsofters might start laughing at us it'd be that bad!

Kimbo · November 17th, 2007, 02:54

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Originally Posted by Coma

Been gone over time and time again. Should airsoft go under the Firearms Act, we'd be limited to semi only, five round mags, length limits, plus many models would be banned by name. Plus more.

not necessarily, I believe .22's are still alowed 50 round mags no prob.

Greylocks · November 17th, 2007, 05:39

Magazine limits are not across the board. Airsoft, paintball, and pellet guns do not currently have ammo limits. It would be impossible to enforce them anyway. So why would they suddenly add limits?

Coma, do you even own real guns? Let alone Restricted or Prohibited ones?

The Saint · November 17th, 2007, 10:58

NZ airsofters are currently under the no-automatic restriction imposed on real guns, so it's not impossible.

I find this whole situation somewhat ironic because C-68 and especially C-10A were written to exclude having to control most pneumatic arms.

ancorp · November 17th, 2007, 12:45

If airsoft should be added to the firearms act, it shouldn't be added AS firearms. They should just require a PAL to possess. No registration, and thus no actual limits on their function/looks. Just like ammo. Show the ID, buy the gun. Thats it.

szetor · November 17th, 2007, 16:27

aren't airsoft guns and pellet guns already regulated under the firearms act anyways??

i didn't read the article in the OP but im pretty sure the idea was to make ppl register their pellet guns right?

Styrak · November 17th, 2007, 16:52

No they are not regulated under the firearms act. Unless you have a pellet gun that fires >500 FPS, but that's it.

ancorp · November 17th, 2007, 17:14

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Originally Posted by Styrak

No they are not regulated under the firearms act. Unless you have a pellet gun that fires >500 FPS, but that's it.

There is an energy limit too (5.7joules I think). So an AEG firing 600fps with .2gs wouldn't be a firearm.

Airguns are treated as firearms regardless of power if they are used in a crime.

On a similar note, I just got a Umarex Beretta CX4 gas blowback :P

Cheers,
Alex

Crunchmeister · November 17th, 2007, 18:46

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Originally Posted by ancorp

On a similar note, I just got a Umarex Beretta CX4 gas blowback :P

I take it you mean the PX4, right?

I just ordered one of those suckers last week. It's in transit and should be here Monday or Tuesday. Can't wait to try this bad boy out. I have the Umarex Walther PPK and it's a bast too. Not the most accurate (then again, neither is the real steel), but man, that blowback and all metal contruction give it a nice feel when shooting it. I'm getting the Walther CP99 Compact next.

ancorp · November 17th, 2007, 20:07

Nope. CX4. Google it.

I have the PPK (well 4th one in the mail now actually, they're so fun!) and might someday pickup the CP99 Compact, wanted one too. As well as that PX4.

Lets keep this on topic. And please, resize that picture, it fills a screen in a thread where it doesn't belong.

Cheers,
Alex

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November 17th, 2007, 01:14	#3
White_knight Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2006	well if they are trying to push this, then couldnt we write to add airsoft to that list? __________________ Burnaby / Vancouver area Age verifier

November 17th, 2007, 01:43	#4
Coma Age Verification Removed Due To Trade Dispute Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Midland	Been gone over time and time again. Should airsoft go under the Firearms Act, we'd be limited to semi only, five round mags, length limits, plus many models would be banned by name. Plus more. __________________ Chairsofter extraordinaire

November 17th, 2007, 10:58	#9
The Saint Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Quebec	NZ airsofters are currently under the no-automatic restriction imposed on real guns, so it's not impossible. I find this whole situation somewhat ironic because C-68 and especially C-10A were written to exclude having to control most pneumatic arms. __________________ "The Bird of Hermes is My Name, Eating My Wings to Make Me Tame."

November 17th, 2007, 02:28	#6
Forever_kaos Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mississauga.	^ He's saying IF airsoft was to get a go to fall under the fire arms act, we'd have a shit load of restrictions on our tails it wouldn't be funny... the crapsofters might start laughing at us it'd be that bad!

November 17th, 2007, 05:39	#8
Greylocks Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Gatineau, Quebec (Near Ottawa)	Magazine limits are not across the board. Airsoft, paintball, and pellet guns do not currently have ammo limits. It would be impossible to enforce them anyway. So why would they suddenly add limits? Coma, do you even own real guns? Let alone Restricted or Prohibited ones?

November 17th, 2007, 12:45	#10
ancorp AK Guru Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Vaughan, Ontario (near Toronto)	If airsoft should be added to the firearms act, it shouldn't be added AS firearms. They should just require a PAL to possess. No registration, and thus no actual limits on their function/looks. Just like ammo. Show the ID, buy the gun. Thats it. __________________

November 17th, 2007, 16:27	#11
szetor Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Edmonton, AB	aren't airsoft guns and pellet guns already regulated under the firearms act anyways?? i didn't read the article in the OP but im pretty sure the idea was to make ppl register their pellet guns right?

November 17th, 2007, 16:52	#12
Styrak Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Saskatoon, SK	No they are not regulated under the firearms act. Unless you have a pellet gun that fires >500 FPS, but that's it. __________________ Airsoft Sales and Repair/Upgrade Services

November 17th, 2007, 20:07	#15
ancorp AK Guru Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Vaughan, Ontario (near Toronto)	Nope. CX4. Google it. I have the PPK (well 4th one in the mail now actually, they're so fun!) and might someday pickup the CP99 Compact, wanted one too. As well as that PX4. Lets keep this on topic. And please, resize that picture, it fills a screen in a thread where it doesn't belong. Cheers, Alex __________________

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