Ak-47 sights are a pain for me.

Forever_kaos · September 12th, 2007, 16:54

Okay I've only spelt maybe 3-4 months with my Ak but I'm noticing more now adjusting the sight is a pain in the ass for me. I can hit big/medium targets (IE-People

) but to hit a pop can, I can't hit it from 10 feet away

..
Anyone have some related issue like this or advice? Or am I just weird with this and can't do it right

ancorp · September 12th, 2007, 17:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forever_kaos

Okay I've only spelt maybe 3-4 months with my Ak but I'm noticing more now adjusting the sight is a pain in the ass for me. I can hit big/medium targets (IE-People

) but to hit a pop can, I can't hit it from 10 feet away

..
Anyone have some related issue like this or advice? Or am I just weird with this and can't do it right

What do you mean you cant hit it? Is it going off elsewhere, requiring either sight or hopup adjustment, or do you just not know how to use regular post/notch sights?

Forever_kaos · September 12th, 2007, 17:11

Basicly the adjusting sight on the Ak, the hop up is fine but I'm aiming poorly because I can't get my sights to line up..
Basicly yeah, I don't know how to use post/notch sights (guessing post/notch means the adjustable style on the Ak?)

Greylocks · September 12th, 2007, 17:26

Top of front post must match top of rear notch, and also be in middle of rear notch. When that is lined up, keep it steady and aim at the middle of your target.
Should look something like this: [_I_]

Forever_kaos · September 12th, 2007, 17:37

Yeah, I get it to be an exact straight line, but just how much must the 2 match up?

Greylocks · September 12th, 2007, 17:41

The top of the front must match the top of the rear and be centered exactly.

Then you change the elevation of where the gun hits by sliding the adjustment of the rear sight back and forth.

Then you put the top of the sights in the middle of the target.

Forever_kaos · September 12th, 2007, 17:44

Ah okay

seems simple enough when I think about it. I had the rear sight lined up just at the tip of the front sight.
Thanks Greylocks and Ancorp very much

ancorp · September 12th, 2007, 17:52

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_sights

Cheers,
Alex

Greylocks · September 12th, 2007, 18:14

Ancorp found an excellent description. Your sight picture should look like Example B, except that you should see the middle of the target cut exactly in two by the top of the front sight.
Right now that example would aim low.

ancorp · September 12th, 2007, 18:26

One thing I don't get - why does the military train soldiers to sight in their sights so when you aim under the bullseye, you hit its center? That would only be effective for a certain size target. In the field, a human figure ain't similar to that in any way, and personally I think it makes sense to adjust your sights so the tip of the front sight post is in the middle of the target, exactly where you want it to hit, instead of having to consider that it would hit higher...

Perhaps there's something I don't know about this system...

Regan.S · September 12th, 2007, 18:37

I don't really understand that either put probably because there guns have recoil so when they do bursts it hits around the same area? No clue but that's my guess?

ancorp · September 12th, 2007, 18:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Regan.S

I don't really understand that either put probably because there guns have recoil so when they do bursts it hits around the same area? No clue but that's my guess?

I highly doubt that. Its for semi automatics too (from what I've seen)

Regan.S · September 12th, 2007, 18:54

Really? Hmmmmm. I don't know then? Possibly it's easier or to hit a certain part of the body? I don't know.

Drake · September 12th, 2007, 19:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by ancorp

One thing I don't get - why does the military train soldiers to sight in their sights so when you aim under the bullseye, you hit its center? That would only be effective for a certain size target. In the field, a human figure ain't similar to that in any way, and personally I think it makes sense to adjust your sights so the tip of the front sight post is in the middle of the target, exactly where you want it to hit, instead of having to consider that it would hit higher...

Perhaps there's something I don't know about this system...

I suspect because it's not meant to be highly accurate fire (like match shooting), but rapid and intuitive, and your target is never obstructed.

Ghost ring (H) and the enhanced sights are good examples:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:O...t_pictures.png

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:E...pen_sights.svg

Greylocks · September 12th, 2007, 19:19

The reason for aiming at the center of the target (and remember that Wikipedia is only as good as who wrote the article) is simple; it's far easyer to acquire a target, and not miss, if you aim for the center of it.

Target acquisition is far faster, your chances of hitting something are greater.

Basic target shooting techniques that apply for IPSC and other applications.

PS, recoil happens long after the bullet has left the barrel.

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September 12th, 2007, 16:54	#1
Forever_kaos Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mississauga.	Ak-47 sights are a pain for me. Okay I've only spelt maybe 3-4 months with my Ak but I'm noticing more now adjusting the sight is a pain in the ass for me. I can hit big/medium targets (IE-People ) but to hit a pop can, I can't hit it from 10 feet away .. Anyone have some related issue like this or advice? Or am I just weird with this and can't do it right

September 12th, 2007, 17:52	#8
ancorp AK Guru Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Vaughan, Ontario (near Toronto)	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_sights Cheers, Alex __________________

September 12th, 2007, 18:26	#10
ancorp AK Guru Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Vaughan, Ontario (near Toronto)	One thing I don't get - why does the military train soldiers to sight in their sights so when you aim under the bullseye, you hit its center? That would only be effective for a certain size target. In the field, a human figure ain't similar to that in any way, and personally I think it makes sense to adjust your sights so the tip of the front sight post is in the middle of the target, exactly where you want it to hit, instead of having to consider that it would hit higher... Perhaps there's something I don't know about this system... __________________

September 12th, 2007, 17:11	#3
Forever_kaos Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mississauga.	Basicly the adjusting sight on the Ak, the hop up is fine but I'm aiming poorly because I can't get my sights to line up.. Basicly yeah, I don't know how to use post/notch sights (guessing post/notch means the adjustable style on the Ak?)

September 12th, 2007, 17:26	#4
Greylocks Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Gatineau, Quebec (Near Ottawa)	Top of front post must match top of rear notch, and also be in middle of rear notch. When that is lined up, keep it steady and aim at the middle of your target. Should look something like this: [_I_]

September 12th, 2007, 17:37	#5
Forever_kaos Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mississauga.	Yeah, I get it to be an exact straight line, but just how much must the 2 match up?

September 12th, 2007, 17:41	#6
Greylocks Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Gatineau, Quebec (Near Ottawa)	The top of the front must match the top of the rear and be centered exactly. Then you change the elevation of where the gun hits by sliding the adjustment of the rear sight back and forth. Then you put the top of the sights in the middle of the target.

September 12th, 2007, 17:44	#7
Forever_kaos Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mississauga.	Ah okay seems simple enough when I think about it. I had the rear sight lined up just at the tip of the front sight. Thanks Greylocks and Ancorp very much

September 12th, 2007, 18:14	#9
Greylocks Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Gatineau, Quebec (Near Ottawa)	Ancorp found an excellent description. Your sight picture should look like Example B, except that you should see the middle of the target cut exactly in two by the top of the front sight. Right now that example would aim low.

September 12th, 2007, 18:37	#11
Regan.S Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Saskatchewan, I'm Lovin' It	I don't really understand that either put probably because there guns have recoil so when they do bursts it hits around the same area? No clue but that's my guess?

September 12th, 2007, 18:54	#13
Regan.S Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Saskatchewan, I'm Lovin' It	Really? Hmmmmm. I don't know then? Possibly it's easier or to hit a certain part of the body? I don't know.

September 12th, 2007, 19:19	#15
Greylocks Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Gatineau, Quebec (Near Ottawa)	The reason for aiming at the center of the target (and remember that Wikipedia is only as good as who wrote the article) is simple; it's far easyer to acquire a target, and not miss, if you aim for the center of it. Target acquisition is far faster, your chances of hitting something are greater. Basic target shooting techniques that apply for IPSC and other applications. PS, recoil happens long after the bullet has left the barrel.

Ak-47 sights are a pain for me.

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