WE P14 Para-Ordnance 1911

jamesaddiction · August 21st, 2007, 13:30

I haven't seen many reviews about this particular gun. The million dollar question. How good is it?

medhatboy · August 21st, 2007, 13:38

I had one about 3 years ago, heavy gun, nice sharp blow back, shot hard and straight, the only thing I didn't like was it was a gas hog. Filled it with gas, loaded the bb's and it would run out of gas on the last shot everytime.

jamesaddiction · August 21st, 2007, 14:05

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Originally Posted by Swatt Five-Six

I had one about 3 years ago, heavy gun, nice sharp blow back, shot hard and straight, the only thing I didn't like was it was a gas hog. Filled it with gas, loaded the bb's and it would run out of gas on the last shot everytime.

I heard that the WE 1911 is compatible with TM parts. Is this true?

medhatboy · August 21st, 2007, 14:08

As far as I know they are, never actually tried, once I saw how much gas I was going threw I got rid of it and went to a NBB, I prefer 75-100 shots per fill compared to 25.

jamesaddiction · August 21st, 2007, 14:14

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Originally Posted by Swatt Five-Six

As far as I know they are, never actually tried, once I saw how much gas I was going threw I got rid of it and went to a NBB, I prefer 75-100 shots per fill compared to 25.

Yeah I don't care too much about gas consumption. I am seeking a well built metal pistol that will last me for a long time. Would you recommend it?

Colin_S · August 21st, 2007, 14:17

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Originally Posted by jamesaddiction

I am seeking a well built metal pistol that will last me for a long time. Would you recommend it?

In that case don't get yourself a WE. If you want something that's well built get yourself a TM and a metal body sure it costs a lot more but it's heads and shoulders above WE. Last year I picked up a WE Hi Capa 5.1, blows chunks compared to my old TM 5.1 and sold it off two weeks later.

Just to note though the TM 1911 also suffers from gas problems but it's due to the very small gas reservoir, not poor gas consumption.

The Saint · August 21st, 2007, 19:05

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Originally Posted by Swatt Five-Six

I had one about 3 years ago, heavy gun, nice sharp blow back, shot hard and straight, the only thing I didn't like was it was a gas hog.

I'm pretty sure the WE P14 has only been out for 3 months, not 3 years. Maybe you're thinking KJW?

medhatboy · August 21st, 2007, 20:02

Actually I was think WA, my bad. I did have the WA one, and did have a WE modle K, thats what got me mixed up.

jamesaddiction · August 21st, 2007, 23:25

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Originally Posted by The Saint

I'm pretty sure the WE P14 has only been out for 3 months, not 3 years. Maybe you're thinking KJW?

The reason why I am looking at the WE version of P14 is because you pay a lot less, and it comes with the metal, which I think is better value. I have heard that WE guns are compatible with TM as well. At least I know that if I need parts there are plenty of after market items available.

So this pistol has only been out for 3 months? Does that mean that it must have a ton of flaws and I should wait until they perfect it?

Nik12 · August 21st, 2007, 23:28

I've also been wondering about the recent quality of WE (not the P14 to be exact). Most of the reviews I've found are greying and some of the inherent WE problems (components not fitting snuggly, the infamous hammer/slide issue, etc) may have been fixed in the latter versions. Anyone have any comments on the quality of recent WE?

(Serisouly, a full metal GBB for the price of a TM? It's both hard to take seriously and hard to resist looking deeper into it)

derek1975 · August 23rd, 2007, 14:03

Quick review of my experience with the WE 1911 with markings.

It looks great, comfortable to grip and had the hardest blowback of any of my pistols yet (KSC Glock 18C, HFC Beretta M190 select fire and WE 1911).

Not to impressed on the quality of the metal. I slapped in a mag and a chunk at the end of the slide flew off. Who knows what happened there, but it pissed me off as it was only about a week old. Also, it really aggravated me that I could only get about 7-10 shots off before the gas was spent. Weird thing is, I hear about cool down affect and how this decreases the amount of shots. Well I'm a little confused on this because if I was just starting out with a warm mag and gassed it up, that's when I would only get about 7-10 shots. After an immediate regas I could go throught the whole mag +. If I recall correctly, on the third gas up I squeezed out 32 shots. Shooting all 15 in the mag and then holding down the slide lock and firing until it wouldn't fire no more. Take this for what it's worth. Just my experience.

Derek

The Saint · August 23rd, 2007, 17:43

Don't load gas into warm mags, load gas into cold mags and warm them up afterwards. Warming the mags before hand decreases the amount of gas you actually load. Warming the can is ok, though, provided you only bring it to warm and not hot.

jamesaddiction · August 23rd, 2007, 23:24

Ok everyone, I was searching exhaustively for more WE P14 reviews. I found this review on Airsoft GI written by A. WAWRZYNIAK on August 18, 2007:

"Okay, before I had some malfunctions with this gun, it was great. With the hop-up well adj...more>> usted and using Airsoft Elite .25g BB's, I was getting 1ft. groupings at around 100 ft. away from the target. This was, BEFORE, It decided to act up. After only about 20 magazines put through, it broke down. The slide gets stuck in the locked position, the hammer refuses to lock back, and the tiny nozzle that connects to the 12gram CO2 cartridge inside the magazine is bent (because at some point someone didn't PERFECTLY align the cartridge and screw it in slowly. I talked about my experiences with it on an online airsoft forum, and someone posted some simple directions to fix it (maybe they will work).

Such an amazing GBB when it WORKED. I still have to recommend it because its performance is amazing for a GBB, but be warned, this thing can go from great to heartbreaking in a second. Luckily, the gun that malfunctioned was my brother's. I'm still going to pick one up someday, and hope to god It doesn't spaz on me like my Bro's did, I'm hoping he just got a lemon. Hoping REAL HARD."

So, what do you guys think? Right now, I am starting to lean toward getting a HFC M190. These reviews are shaking my confidence.

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Originally Posted by Nik12

I've also been wondering about the recent quality of WE (not the P14 to be exact). Most of the reviews I've found are greying and some of the inherent WE problems (components not fitting snuggly, the infamous hammer/slide issue, etc) may have been fixed in the latter versions. Anyone have any comments on the quality of recent WE?

(Serisouly, a full metal GBB for the price of a TM? It's both hard to take seriously and hard to resist looking deeper into it)

The Saint · August 23rd, 2007, 23:51

If you're really looking for a metal Para, consider KJW.

derek1975 · August 24th, 2007, 12:17

If you're a gamer and not just a basement plinker/collector, I would highly recomend the hfc beretta M190 over the WE 1911 anyday. As nice as the 1911 looks ( I personally love it ) I wouldn't trust it in a tight situation if you run out of ammo or your battery dies on your AEG. You've got a larger mag capacity that will actually empty the mag reliably on a gas charge and you've always got that full auto option if you need to spray and pray/flee. Also, my beretta feels like a tank. I don't have anything to compare it to, but I hear KJ's are made of weaker metals. Just to point this out to you, my trigger spring broke on my beretta a couple weeks in of owning it. Quick and easy fix though. I made my own spring to replace it and to be honest it feels even better than when I got it. A little more tense. Initially the trigger pull felt a little weak/light. I don't know if I described that right. Anyhoo, if you want a pistol with the correct markings go WE. If that means nothing to you and you just want a workhorse get the HFC.

Derek

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August 21st, 2007, 13:30	#1
jamesaddiction Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Toronto	WE P14 Para-Ordnance 1911 I haven't seen many reviews about this particular gun. The million dollar question. How good is it? Last edited by jamesaddiction; August 21st, 2007 at 13:33..

August 21st, 2007, 13:38	#2
medhatboy formerly Swatt Five-Six Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Medicine Hat, Alberta	I had one about 3 years ago, heavy gun, nice sharp blow back, shot hard and straight, the only thing I didn't like was it was a gas hog. Filled it with gas, loaded the bb's and it would run out of gas on the last shot everytime. __________________ Medicine Hat Airsoft - Home of the Cypress County Tactical Airsoft Team

August 21st, 2007, 14:08	#4
medhatboy formerly Swatt Five-Six Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Medicine Hat, Alberta	As far as I know they are, never actually tried, once I saw how much gas I was going threw I got rid of it and went to a NBB, I prefer 75-100 shots per fill compared to 25. __________________ Medicine Hat Airsoft - Home of the Cypress County Tactical Airsoft Team

August 21st, 2007, 20:02	#8
medhatboy formerly Swatt Five-Six Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Medicine Hat, Alberta	Actually I was think WA, my bad. I did have the WA one, and did have a WE modle K, thats what got me mixed up. __________________ Medicine Hat Airsoft - Home of the Cypress County Tactical Airsoft Team

August 21st, 2007, 23:28	#10
Nik12 Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Toronto	I've also been wondering about the recent quality of WE (not the P14 to be exact). Most of the reviews I've found are greying and some of the inherent WE problems (components not fitting snuggly, the infamous hammer/slide issue, etc) may have been fixed in the latter versions. Anyone have any comments on the quality of recent WE? (Serisouly, a full metal GBB for the price of a TM? It's both hard to take seriously and hard to resist looking deeper into it) __________________ G19 Out of Sport. Have Fun!

August 23rd, 2007, 14:03	#11
derek1975 Trader rating Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canada	Quick review of my experience with the WE 1911 with markings. It looks great, comfortable to grip and had the hardest blowback of any of my pistols yet (KSC Glock 18C, HFC Beretta M190 select fire and WE 1911). Not to impressed on the quality of the metal. I slapped in a mag and a chunk at the end of the slide flew off. Who knows what happened there, but it pissed me off as it was only about a week old. Also, it really aggravated me that I could only get about 7-10 shots off before the gas was spent. Weird thing is, I hear about cool down affect and how this decreases the amount of shots. Well I'm a little confused on this because if I was just starting out with a warm mag and gassed it up, that's when I would only get about 7-10 shots. After an immediate regas I could go throught the whole mag +. If I recall correctly, on the third gas up I squeezed out 32 shots. Shooting all 15 in the mag and then holding down the slide lock and firing until it wouldn't fire no more. Take this for what it's worth. Just my experience. Derek

August 23rd, 2007, 17:43	#12
The Saint Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Quebec	Don't load gas into warm mags, load gas into cold mags and warm them up afterwards. Warming the mags before hand decreases the amount of gas you actually load. Warming the can is ok, though, provided you only bring it to warm and not hot. __________________ "The Bird of Hermes is My Name, Eating My Wings to Make Me Tame."

August 23rd, 2007, 23:51	#14
The Saint Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Quebec	If you're really looking for a metal Para, consider KJW. __________________ "The Bird of Hermes is My Name, Eating My Wings to Make Me Tame."

August 24th, 2007, 12:17	#15
derek1975 Trader rating Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canada	If you're a gamer and not just a basement plinker/collector, I would highly recomend the hfc beretta M190 over the WE 1911 anyday. As nice as the 1911 looks ( I personally love it ) I wouldn't trust it in a tight situation if you run out of ammo or your battery dies on your AEG. You've got a larger mag capacity that will actually empty the mag reliably on a gas charge and you've always got that full auto option if you need to spray and pray/flee. Also, my beretta feels like a tank. I don't have anything to compare it to, but I hear KJ's are made of weaker metals. Just to point this out to you, my trigger spring broke on my beretta a couple weeks in of owning it. Quick and easy fix though. I made my own spring to replace it and to be honest it feels even better than when I got it. A little more tense. Initially the trigger pull felt a little weak/light. I don't know if I described that right. Anyhoo, if you want a pistol with the correct markings go WE. If that means nothing to you and you just want a workhorse get the HFC. Derek

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