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Old June 11th, 2006, 15:58   #1
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Any way to disable full auto on a TM M14?

Just planning out future gun purchases and wanted to eventually get a sniper rifle. I dont want gas or spring but the only electric sniper rifle I know of is the PSG-1 which I dont like much asthetically. Really like the M14 but since it has a full auto setting most fields will only allow 400fps for it where as as a sniper platform I would want to get closer to the 450fps limit for single shot sniper rifles. So is there any way to permenetly disable the full auto setting on it? Removing the contact from the selector plate would work?

Want the TM over the G&G since the latter has some terrible comments out there about it where as other than the finish of the stock/handguard not much bad is said about the TM one, and their both full metal.

Also, anyone know what gearbox version is in it? *crosses fingers it isnt Ver.2* Dont want to have to deal with constantly cracking ver.2 mechboxes with a 450fps upgrade.
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Old June 11th, 2006, 16:01   #2
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put some tape or whatever you want on the full auto part of the selector plate... youll get no electrical contacts...no Full auto...
cheapest/fastest way to do that i think

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Old June 11th, 2006, 16:10   #3
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I don't have any suggestions about the full-auto disabling but I'll be interested in a solution. I'm pretty sure the M-14 uses a version 7 mechbox. Whatever the number it is particular to the M-14 and is not used in any other gun to date.
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Old June 11th, 2006, 16:21   #4
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M14 is V7. Most hosts have the 400+ sniper rule based on the time between shots on BA rifles, and thus semi-only AEGs still count as AEGs because you can place follow-up shots extremely quickly. If they'll let you on with a semi-only AEG, they'll probably let you on with a full-auto one as long as you promise you'll only use semi.
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Old June 11th, 2006, 16:35   #5
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So that means those fields that would disallow this M14 would also disallow a PSG-1?

May just be a psudo sniper and keep the full auto as well as sub 401fps.
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Old June 11th, 2006, 17:04   #6
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Well theres always the STAR SL-8 and SL-9, or the G&G or G&P Sr25.
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Old June 11th, 2006, 17:10   #7
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I really like the apperance of the M14, the SR25 has a Ver.2 gearbox I'm trying to avoid and I actually think the STAR SL8 and 9 are hideous. Like the bastard child of an A.I.C.S and a G36.

But the same problem as the M14 if what harleyb says is true, they are semi auto.
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Old June 11th, 2006, 17:12   #8
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Totally depends on the host. I can't speak for them.

You won't be disappointed by the M14's range, even stock.
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Old June 11th, 2006, 17:14   #9
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My M14 is running 395ish right now, floating between 393-397 very consistantly and it is quite the sweet spot to run this rifle at. I was originally shooting for a fps of 420-430, but after playing with it running just under 400fps, I was very pleased with the performance.

I was able to get some very choice distance shots, as well as switch over to full auto when it was needed. I would suggest you think of the M14 not as a sniper rifle, but more something to be used in the "designated marksman" role.
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Old June 11th, 2006, 17:17   #10
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You won't be disappointed by the M14's range, even stock.
Just read a couple more reviews that say even with the stock 310-330fps it can hit a target at 35m (114ft) and upgraded to 410fps can hit a target at 180ft. I'd be somewhere in between at 380-390fps.

Kokanee, mind sharing what upgrades you got to get that sweet spot? Kinda what I'm aiming for.
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Old June 18th, 2006, 03:29   #11
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Any way to disable full auto on a TM M14?
yes, take out the plastic L shaped plate with the oval slot in it. This will disable full auto and not affect anything else.
However, like all AEGs (except for the PSG1) you will need the full auto function to solve the lock up problem if you gun ever get stuck in those dreaded half cycles. (latch stuck in trigger switch position)
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Old June 18th, 2006, 11:44   #12
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Pushing an AEG over 400fps has been noted for having odd results on the BBs. Pushing ANY AEG over 400fps will be killer to the mechbox.
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Old June 18th, 2006, 12:01   #13
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Any way to disable full auto on a TM M14?
yes, take out the plastic L shaped plate with the oval slot in it. This will disable full auto and not affect anything else.
However, like all AEGs (except for the PSG1) you will need the full auto function to solve the lock up problem if you gun ever get stuck in those dreaded half cycles. (latch stuck in trigger switch position)
Apoc's G&P SPR has that annoying problem, it locks up halfway once in a while when on semi, and the only way to unlock it is to fire a burst. Really sucks ass that I can't fix it.

Firemachine, you got that right, higher fps makes BBs more unstable, hop up makes the BB spin faster, it grabs air more aggressively and will be more sensitive to air currents. All depending on the fps, BB weight, amount of hop up, etc. Is where fine tuning comes into play. In my mind, increase the fps, less hop up is needed because the rate of spin on the BB will be faster. Increase the weight of the BB, more hop up will be needed to get max distance out of it. Hard to really describe, but these are things I've found with my M24 and all the fine tuning I've done. I can easily get my 0.29g BBs through doorways at ~200ft away if there isn't a strong wind presence, and have gotten kills a bit past that distance under reasonable conditions.

Lutnit, I'd say Kokanee is the guy to talk to about the M14. A lot of the parts and set up he has done came from talking to me. I'd still love to see what 0.29g SGM "Match Grade" ammo will do in his M14. We were going to try that later in the day back in April, but had his wipeout in the tower midafternoon that day and had to be taken to the hospital, so we never got a chance to try it. And last game I played with him he was busy running the gameday and I doubt he had any guns with him there. I'd say Rawdon would be the best time to play around with his M14, I plan to take my M24 down to the range they have set up there (recall steel plates set up every 25ft form 75ft to 175ft). Not really up to playing the night game the day before, but plan to go visit the desert team that evening, hang out, and shoot some steel plates.
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Old June 18th, 2006, 13:04   #14
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Yeah, since Kokanee has listed what he has in his M14 I plan on copying that to try to get the same just-under-400fps, keeping the full auto intact. This is of course all long distance planning as there is at least one other gun I want before the M14.
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Old June 18th, 2006, 13:42   #15
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I would also recommend keeping a m14 sub 400. When I my m14 was shooting 380 it was so accurate and had such consistency. I decide to push it up and running about 435 right now. Not the same gun at all anymore.

yeah I have super range but the consistency is not there for making the accurate shots. I am seriously using my other m14 shooting about 360 and making better shots with it then my one thats up graded to 435.

And my m14 shooting 435 has all the bells and whistles installed in the gearbox and a tightbore to boot.
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