A Question About Flecktarn

nic_s · December 24th, 2005, 04:51

OK guys, it's pretty straightforward. I have noticed that there are what appears to be two different versions of flecktarn. I'm not talking about desert flecktarn either. It seems like one is lighter than the other, and uses slightly different shades of the five colours. Anyone have any ideas?
Oh yeah, and Lang Lebe Flecktarn.

Lerch · December 24th, 2005, 05:18

Do you mean the Danish Fleck (M84)?

There's also the Chinese Fleck...

Or maybe you've been seeing some of the different dyes.

666 · December 24th, 2005, 06:16

Faded fleck? Fake fleck made for thugs? Maybe those ghetto/gangsta complanies switched from US woodland products to fleck now

Greylocks · December 24th, 2005, 09:32

I found that Flecktarn was too visible in Quebec/Ontario woods. They have a bit too much red.

Telnets · December 24th, 2005, 11:45

Flecktarn tends to fade quite a bit, just like Cadpat and a lot of other camos out there. However, if you get a new set thats unwashed, and wash it properly the first few times the color can set good, and not end up all dull down the road. This is probably what you have seen. Some uniforms that have been taken care of and have vibrent colors (or new uniforms) and the duller used versions, which is just due to sun and washing without taking the propper care.

If your actualy talking about different colors in whole (ie flectarns redish brown, vs denmarks green/black) then you would have to post a pic of what you saw, and I could probably tell you which country was or is using the varient of color.

Lastly, there are different dye lots of fabric, meaning fabric that was dyed say in, 1990 is not going to be the exact same as fabric dyed in 1995. Colors change slightly, and the dye is different which they might change to be more fade resistant or such, which changes the color slightly. So that may be the case as well.

Flectarn has been around for a very long time, so it has undergone a lot of "modifications" over the years, most are very minimal, but are still noticeable when you look.

nic_s · December 24th, 2005, 14:54

Ah, I see! thanks for the info. Now, how do you properly wash brand-new flecktarn so that it sets?

Kane · December 24th, 2005, 16:55

I notice a big difference in dye colors between two articles of new Flecktarn. The issue shirt if darker than my KHS Kommando pants, but they ARE BOTH NEW. Doesn't bother be, like Telnets stated.... different batches of ye make for different colors. Makes it look better if you ask me.

Lerch · December 24th, 2005, 18:34

Well don't forget, just because it's new...doesn't mean it's new. Confused?
Let me explain. Most of the time, units will overstock on uniforms and end up leaving sets in boxes, where they don't see light (ie. fade). After awhile, the unit cleans out for new uniforms, and sells the old stock to surplus. Hence you have mint flecktarn going into circulation.
The same thing happened for the British S94.

Ps. Most issued flecktarn is not from the last few years, however the custom items (KHS) is. That's why you get the dye variations.

yanhchan · December 24th, 2005, 18:40

I love german Fleck but I've been called a nazi for wearing it at school...it was cold...i'm not a nazi damnit

Lerch · December 24th, 2005, 18:50

Just start goose-stepping to class..and then toss everyone that says 'nazi' into a furnace. That'll shut them up :tup:

yanhchan · December 24th, 2005, 19:07

what is goose stepping????

Conscript · December 24th, 2005, 19:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by yanhchan

what is goose stepping????

A march, but you gotta walk like a goose and step like one too.

nic_s · December 24th, 2005, 19:50

The flecktarn set I have is actually from my cousin in Germany. Issued, but never worn.

I've got a brand-new (never worn) flecktarn parka I'm thinking about selling, how much you guys figure these go for?

yanhchan · December 24th, 2005, 20:03

German parkas go for around like 60-70....flectarn german isn't that rare...i guess the set is around 40-50 max...

MiG · December 25th, 2005, 07:22

In the late 90s the Bundeswehr looks for a improved Flecktarn. So they developed a version in which the colours seems to fade or it could be the german 5-Farben Tropentarn.
Check the link for the exact colour:
German camos
click on the text below the picture.

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December 24th, 2005, 04:51	#1
nic_s Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: BC	A Question About Flecktarn OK guys, it's pretty straightforward. I have noticed that there are what appears to be two different versions of flecktarn. I'm not talking about desert flecktarn either. It seems like one is lighter than the other, and uses slightly different shades of the five colours. Anyone have any ideas? Oh yeah, and Lang Lebe Flecktarn. __________________ ...and she's terribly partial to the periwinkle blue.

December 24th, 2005, 05:18	#2
Lerch * AV Status REVOKED * Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: CFB Shilo, MB	Do you mean the Danish Fleck (M84)? There's also the Chinese Fleck... Or maybe you've been seeing some of the different dyes. __________________

December 24th, 2005, 06:16	#3
666 Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Toronto, Ontario	Faded fleck? Fake fleck made for thugs? Maybe those ghetto/gangsta complanies switched from US woodland products to fleck now __________________ Op Woodsman. Biggest WW2 event in Ontario.

December 24th, 2005, 09:32	#4
Greylocks Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Gatineau, Quebec (Near Ottawa)	I found that Flecktarn was too visible in Quebec/Ontario woods. They have a bit too much red.

December 24th, 2005, 11:45	#5
Telnets Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Calgary Alberta	Flecktarn tends to fade quite a bit, just like Cadpat and a lot of other camos out there. However, if you get a new set thats unwashed, and wash it properly the first few times the color can set good, and not end up all dull down the road. This is probably what you have seen. Some uniforms that have been taken care of and have vibrent colors (or new uniforms) and the duller used versions, which is just due to sun and washing without taking the propper care. If your actualy talking about different colors in whole (ie flectarns redish brown, vs denmarks green/black) then you would have to post a pic of what you saw, and I could probably tell you which country was or is using the varient of color. Lastly, there are different dye lots of fabric, meaning fabric that was dyed say in, 1990 is not going to be the exact same as fabric dyed in 1995. Colors change slightly, and the dye is different which they might change to be more fade resistant or such, which changes the color slightly. So that may be the case as well. Flectarn has been around for a very long time, so it has undergone a lot of "modifications" over the years, most are very minimal, but are still noticeable when you look. __________________

December 24th, 2005, 14:54	#6
nic_s Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: BC	Ah, I see! thanks for the info. Now, how do you properly wash brand-new flecktarn so that it sets? __________________ ...and she's terribly partial to the periwinkle blue.

December 24th, 2005, 16:55	#7
Kane Trader rating Join Date: May 2002 Location: Salmon Arm, BC	I notice a big difference in dye colors between two articles of new Flecktarn. The issue shirt if darker than my KHS Kommando pants, but they ARE BOTH NEW. Doesn't bother be, like Telnets stated.... different batches of ye make for different colors. Makes it look better if you ask me. __________________ “You hear the far-off crack of a rifle, your fate finally registering in your subconscious far too late as the white hot bullet penetrates your skull. Another round slams into the chamber even as your lifeless body falls to the ground…”---Unknown sniper “Invisible souls leave .308 holes.”----USMC Recon Sniper

December 24th, 2005, 18:34	#8
Lerch * AV Status REVOKED * Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: CFB Shilo, MB	Well don't forget, just because it's new...doesn't mean it's new. Confused? Let me explain. Most of the time, units will overstock on uniforms and end up leaving sets in boxes, where they don't see light (ie. fade). After awhile, the unit cleans out for new uniforms, and sells the old stock to surplus. Hence you have mint flecktarn going into circulation. The same thing happened for the British S94. Ps. Most issued flecktarn is not from the last few years, however the custom items (KHS) is. That's why you get the dye variations. __________________

December 24th, 2005, 18:40	#9
yanhchan Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Scarborough/Richmond Hill ON	I love german Fleck but I've been called a nazi for wearing it at school...it was cold...i'm not a nazi damnit __________________ YANHCHAN'S AIRSMITHING: AEG repair/Tune up/Upgrades V2/V3 mechboxes, rewiring/reconnecting. Ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country ~John F. Kennedy

December 24th, 2005, 18:50	#10
Lerch * AV Status REVOKED * Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: CFB Shilo, MB	Just start goose-stepping to class..and then toss everyone that says 'nazi' into a furnace. That'll shut them up :tup: __________________

December 24th, 2005, 19:07	#11
yanhchan Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Scarborough/Richmond Hill ON	what is goose stepping???? __________________ YANHCHAN'S AIRSMITHING: AEG repair/Tune up/Upgrades V2/V3 mechboxes, rewiring/reconnecting. Ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country ~John F. Kennedy

December 24th, 2005, 19:50	#13
nic_s Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: BC	The flecktarn set I have is actually from my cousin in Germany. Issued, but never worn. I've got a brand-new (never worn) flecktarn parka I'm thinking about selling, how much you guys figure these go for? __________________ ...and she's terribly partial to the periwinkle blue.

December 24th, 2005, 20:03	#14
yanhchan Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Scarborough/Richmond Hill ON	German parkas go for around like 60-70....flectarn german isn't that rare...i guess the set is around 40-50 max... __________________ YANHCHAN'S AIRSMITHING: AEG repair/Tune up/Upgrades V2/V3 mechboxes, rewiring/reconnecting. Ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country ~John F. Kennedy

December 25th, 2005, 07:22	#15
MiG Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: far far away	In the late 90s the Bundeswehr looks for a improved Flecktarn. So they developed a version in which the colours seems to fade or it could be the german 5-Farben Tropentarn. Check the link for the exact colour: German camos click on the text below the picture.

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