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Old January 21st, 2015, 16:33   #1
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Inquiring on Angel Custom parts for VSR

Hey there,

Looking to tune up a spare VSR and found a bunch of Angel Custom parts. They appear to be laylax product clones. Do they hold up nearly as well? Interested in their hopup and hopup chamber, cylinder, etc.

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Old January 21st, 2015, 17:53   #2
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The consensus in the bolt-action world is they are junk, there is an entire complaint thread +10 pages long regarding them on airsoftsniperforum.

Action Army or PDI/Laylax are the only recommended brands.

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Old January 21st, 2015, 18:58   #3
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angel customs is a evike house brand.
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Old January 21st, 2015, 19:03   #4
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Evike house brands are basically bullshit from China. They just call it Matrix or Angel Custom instead of calling it ACM.
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Old January 21st, 2015, 19:10   #5
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Handled some L96 angel custom parts. They are shit.
When it comes to bolt action rifles, if you're not buying laylax or PDI, sell your rifle.
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Old January 21st, 2015, 19:46   #6
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My experience with Action Army puts them on par or ahead of Laylax. Especially their zero trigger and piston set which allows use of the safety. Also their VSR hop-up is far superior to PDI in my opinion.
Their barrels and buckings I can't speak to since I run my own barrels.

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Old January 21st, 2015, 21:15   #7
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The whole time I had a vsr I just used a firefly hop and the stock chamber, I'm sure the PDI/action chambers are better, but I wasn't left wanting any more accuracy...

The action chamber looks good, but the PDI has dual hop arms in case of deviancy in the hop rubber. Of course that usually means you installed the hop rubber incorrectly.... lol
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Old January 21st, 2015, 22:48   #8
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The whole time I had a vsr I just used a firefly hop and the stock chamber, I'm sure the PDI/action chambers are better, but I wasn't left wanting any more accuracy...

The action chamber looks good, but the PDI has dual hop arms in case of deviancy in the hop rubber. Of course that usually means you installed the hop rubber incorrectly.... lol
The PDI chamber actually has a lot of issues. #1 would be that the actual pressure is applied by an O-ring being used as an elastic, the adjustment holds reduces the tension on the bucking by limiting how far the o-ring can drive the arms down. Main problem with that is the o-ring wears and also is sensitive to environmental factors.
Having the twin arms themselves can make you chase your tail in terms of eliminating BB hooking when you should just be looking at your bucking install. You are totally right that a properly installed bucking helps but overall the VSR hop-up puts asymmetrical pressure on the BB. That can be greatly eliminated by shimming the stock arm.

The AA chamber pretty much eliminates all of that along with offering excellent feeding and perfect airseal out of the box. There is a +10 page thread on them over on ASSF, universally loved.

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