Importing G&P DBAL PEQs

Meatshower · March 3rd, 2014, 23:34

I wanted to get some clarification on this before I purchased one. I am considering purchasing a G&P DBAL PEQ box on ebay. But I am not sure if I can import it into Canada, whether it be due to ITAR restrictions or Canadian laws. Anyone know the 100% written in stone rules with bringing one in?

ShelledPants · March 3rd, 2014, 23:48

ITAR only applies to items made in the USA. G&P is Asia. Buying from the USA and having it shipped to Canada is fine. That item is not restricted in any way.

On the other hand, a real DBAL (LDI, for example), would be ITAR and would need to be imported with paperwork.

docholiday · March 3rd, 2014, 23:55

On that note the G&P DBAL is, as far as I know, not eye safe. You can only use it "for looks" but cannot fire if off during games as it can cause serious damage to the eye.

Verex · March 4th, 2014, 00:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meatshower

I wanted to get some clarification on this before I purchased one. I am considering purchasing a G&P DBAL PEQ box on ebay. But I am not sure if I can import it into Canada, whether it be due to ITAR restrictions or Canadian laws. Anyone know the 100% written in stone rules with bringing one in?

There will be no issues with this since I just got one from Ebay, also ShelledPants is correct in regards to this not falling under the ITAR restrictions.

ShelledPants · March 4th, 2014, 00:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by docholiday

On that note the G&P DBAL is, as far as I know, not eye safe. You can only use it "for looks" but cannot fire if off during games as it can cause serious damage to the eye.

Yeah, this is also true. Replica lasers are a big no no for games.

Do not even bring it to the field.

Derpystronk · March 4th, 2014, 00:11

If you are importing the laser from China? No problems (Although Health Canada may potentially take a look at it)

If you are trying to import it from the United States? ITAR restricted.

If you are trying to use it with your Night Vision at a game? Don't.

Ozone06 · March 4th, 2014, 00:14

I like not being blind.

ShelledPants · March 4th, 2014, 00:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deltastone

If you are importing the laser from China? No problems (Although Health Canada may potentially take a look at it)

If you are trying to import it from the United States? ITAR restricted.

If you are trying to use it with your Night Vision at a game? Don't.

This doesn't surprise me. ITAR is ITAR'DED.

Meatshower · March 4th, 2014, 00:18

Alright, this is why I asked this question before dropping $150 plus on it lol.

Is there a eye safe IR PEQ? Like the PEQ16? I'm pretty new to this whole laser business

Derpystronk · March 4th, 2014, 00:19

There are, but they aren't cheap for a number of reasons. Expect to pay over 700 dollars, easy. :/

ShelledPants · March 4th, 2014, 00:23

LDI Class 1 IR can run you 700-900 depending on the source.

ThunderCactus · March 4th, 2014, 01:02

what if one were to import it, reduce the output to class 1 and measured by a reputable source?
because you can reduce the output of most lasers.

Derpystronk · March 4th, 2014, 01:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThunderCactus

what if one were to import it, reduce the output to class 1 and measured by a reputable source?
because you can reduce the output of most lasers.

Had a similar discussion a while ago - everyone just "Nah" for numerous reasons ("HOW DO WE REALLY KNOW?!?!?!?!")

Your best solution is to either

A) Buy that real shit

or

B) Buy a Class 1 diode from a reputable source, with paperwork, and potentially build your own shit... And then find additional ways to document it because your homebrew laser will come under additional scrutiny come game time.

Styrak · March 4th, 2014, 02:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShelledPants

ITAR only applies to items made in the USA. G&P is Asia. Buying from the USA and having it shipped to Canada is fine. That item is not restricted in any way.

On the other hand, a real DBAL (LDI, for example), would be ITAR and would need to be imported with paperwork.

ITAR is a US export law, not anything related to Canadian import.

ThunderCactus · March 4th, 2014, 16:13

the paperwork is how you would know
also, have you ever seen a class 1 laser directly compared to a 5-8mw laser through night vision? the difference is pretty substantial. given they provide paperwork its easy to check it under nvd to verify their claims.
its like the difference between a 200 lumen light and a 60 lumen light lol

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March 3rd, 2014, 23:34	#1
Meatshower Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Lower mainland, BC	Importing G&P DBAL PEQs I wanted to get some clarification on this before I purchased one. I am considering purchasing a G&P DBAL PEQ box on ebay. But I am not sure if I can import it into Canada, whether it be due to ITAR restrictions or Canadian laws. Anyone know the 100% written in stone rules with bringing one in?

March 3rd, 2014, 23:48	#2
ShelledPants Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Toronto, On	ITAR only applies to items made in the USA. G&P is Asia. Buying from the USA and having it shipped to Canada is fine. That item is not restricted in any way. On the other hand, a real DBAL (LDI, for example), would be ITAR and would need to be imported with paperwork. __________________ Ár skal r?*sa, sá er annars vill fé eða fjör hafa. Sjaldan liggjandi úlfur lær um getur né sofandi maður sigur.

March 4th, 2014, 00:11	#6
Derpystronk Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Southern Ontario	If you are importing the laser from China? No problems (Although Health Canada may potentially take a look at it) If you are trying to import it from the United States? ITAR restricted. If you are trying to use it with your Night Vision at a game? Don't. __________________ Airsoft Community & Events http://www.OP4S.com

March 3rd, 2014, 23:55	#3
docholiday docholidayy Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Toronto	On that note the G&P DBAL is, as far as I know, not eye safe. You can only use it "for looks" but cannot fire if off during games as it can cause serious damage to the eye.

March 4th, 2014, 00:14	#7
Ozone06 Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Mississauga	I like not being blind. __________________ “We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm.” George Orwell To those Rough men... Thank You.

March 4th, 2014, 00:18	#9
Meatshower Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Lower mainland, BC	Alright, this is why I asked this question before dropping $150 plus on it lol. Is there a eye safe IR PEQ? Like the PEQ16? I'm pretty new to this whole laser business

March 4th, 2014, 00:19	#10
Derpystronk Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Southern Ontario	There are, but they aren't cheap for a number of reasons. Expect to pay over 700 dollars, easy. :/ __________________ Airsoft Community & Events http://www.OP4S.com

March 4th, 2014, 00:23	#11
ShelledPants Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Toronto, On	LDI Class 1 IR can run you 700-900 depending on the source. __________________ Ár skal r?*sa, sá er annars vill fé eða fjör hafa. Sjaldan liggjandi úlfur lær um getur né sofandi maður sigur.

March 4th, 2014, 01:02	#12
ThunderCactus Not Eye Safe, Pretty Boy Maximus on the field take his picture! Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2007	what if one were to import it, reduce the output to class 1 and measured by a reputable source? because you can reduce the output of most lasers.

March 4th, 2014, 16:13	#15
ThunderCactus Not Eye Safe, Pretty Boy Maximus on the field take his picture! Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2007	the paperwork is how you would know also, have you ever seen a class 1 laser directly compared to a 5-8mw laser through night vision? the difference is pretty substantial. given they provide paperwork its easy to check it under nvd to verify their claims. its like the difference between a 200 lumen light and a 60 lumen light lol

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