best aeg brands

Rusty Lugnuts · August 21st, 2013, 16:04

Not counting used Systema , FCC and Real Swords, I was asked what the best brands of AEG costing around $500 would be. ALL i could think of were TM , VFC, ICS, KWA and maybe G&P. What would you add to the list and were would you put it in the line-up?

lurkingknight · August 21st, 2013, 16:10

what are you conditions for best?

Some guns have better externals but shit internals... others have reasonable externals but highly compatible exact spec internals and mounting points for internal components.

Danke · August 21st, 2013, 16:12

Whats' wrong with the list you have? That's pretty extensive.

Rusty Lugnuts · August 21st, 2013, 16:14

I think what he meant~ better internals over externals- tight grouping, dependable- out of the box performance

Stealth · August 21st, 2013, 16:29

I would throw King Arms, Classic Army, G&G and Lonex into that mix.

L473ncy · August 21st, 2013, 16:39

Add LCT into that mix as well.

cetane · August 21st, 2013, 16:57

Perhaps removing kwa from it for aeg's. I don't mind them, but not heavily experienced with them. They are not a favorite brand (hated really) over on airsoft mechanics for being very proprietary internally & meh kwa branded externals.. $0.02

iKliiu · August 21st, 2013, 17:04

Definitely CYMA and D-boys for certain models, such as AKs.

lurkingknight · August 21st, 2013, 17:07

kwa has some weird offspec components that have no upgrades like the nozzle from what I understand.

I'll shit on TM half as much as I shit on PTWs... not worth the price in canada after upgrading them to field spec, you still have a plastic bodied gun and an unreinforced potmetal gearbox that will more than likely crack.

Almost all the clone brands have surpassed TM in gearbox strength.

If the hop is what makes them legendary, you can achieve it by buying the TM hop unit separately an installing it into the other TM spec gun of your choice for far less money that the TM. At this point, buying a TM rifle is for the sake of buying a TM rifle, not because of its performance. TM has given us TM spec, AEG and hopup, and that's what is important about them. As a modern brand outside japan, unless you can get it for cheap, is not worth it.

Stealth · August 21st, 2013, 17:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by iKliiu

Definitely CYMA and D-boys for certain models, such as AKs.

I respectfully disagree. The aforementioned AK-specific brands (LCT, VFC, RS) are ahead of those ACM brands by miles.

Long_Bong · August 21st, 2013, 17:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by lurkingknight

kwa has some weird offspec components that have no upgrades like the nozzle from what I understand.

I'll shit on TM half as much as I shit on PTWs... not worth the price in canada after upgrading them to field spec, you still have a plastic bodied gun and an unreinforced potmetal gearbox that will more than likely crack.

Almost all the clone brands have surpassed TM in gearbox strength.

If the hop is what makes them legendary, you can achieve it by buying the TM hop unit separately an installing it into the other TM spec gun of your choice for far less money that the TM. At this point, buying a TM rifle is for the sake of buying a TM rifle, not because of its performance. TM has given us TM spec, AEG and hopup, and that's what is important about them. As a modern brand outside japan, unless you can get it for cheap, is not worth it.

Did you try the new High Cycle TM?

Ie: 1500 rpm at 300 fps with TM accuracy and reliability with a 2 cell lipo or 8.4v battery.

The rof provide a trigger response like a gbbr, which is amazing!

And it use the standard mag, but high cap can t keep up

Danke · August 21st, 2013, 17:21

This thread has gone that way, once again like all it's predecessors.

The best brand is the one that builds the AEG that you want in your price range and that's available in Canada.

For some people that best brand is Crossman. For others it's Systema.

MultipleParadox · August 21st, 2013, 17:22

Realsword for externals at least
I'm not too aware of their internals though

iKliiu · August 21st, 2013, 17:24

I wouldn't say VFC and LCT are ahead by miles, RS is external wise. As for the TM high cycle, 25 RPS isn't hard when the guns shoot at such a low FPS.

lurkingknight · August 21st, 2013, 17:37

25 rps on an 8.4 is pretty easy to achieve especially at 300 fps. Either by faster gear ratio or faster motor.. since it requires so little torque to turn over the m80/90 springs in the stock TM, a faster gear ratio will get 25 rps easy.

You can lego build 30rps these days without much trouble, my p90 is proof of that.

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August 21st, 2013, 16:04	#1
Rusty Lugnuts Fainting Goat, Dictator of Quinte West Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Cobourg Ontario	best aeg brands Not counting used Systema , FCC and Real Swords, I was asked what the best brands of AEG costing around $500 would be. ALL i could think of were TM , VFC, ICS, KWA and maybe G&P. What would you add to the list and were would you put it in the line-up?

August 21st, 2013, 16:10	#2
lurkingknight "bb bukakke" KING! Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Ottawa	what are you conditions for best? Some guns have better externals but shit internals... others have reasonable externals but highly compatible exact spec internals and mounting points for internal components. __________________ I futz with V2s, V3s and V6s. I could be wrong... but probably, most likely not, as far as I know.

August 21st, 2013, 16:12	#3
Danke Prancercise Guru Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Danger Zone	Whats' wrong with the list you have? That's pretty extensive. __________________ Airsoft, where nothing is hurt but feelings.

August 21st, 2013, 16:14	#4
Rusty Lugnuts Fainting Goat, Dictator of Quinte West Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Cobourg Ontario	I think what he meant~ better internals over externals- tight grouping, dependable- out of the box performance

August 21st, 2013, 16:29	#5
Stealth Mr. Silencer Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Toronto	I would throw King Arms, Classic Army, G&G and Lonex into that mix. Last edited by Stealth; August 21st, 2013 at 16:54..

August 21st, 2013, 16:39	#6
L473ncy Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: 11-30-24-1W5	Add LCT into that mix as well. __________________ ಠ_ಠLess QQ more Pew Pew READY TO >> RACE

August 21st, 2013, 16:57	#7
cetane Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Markham & Stouffville - Ontario - Canada	Perhaps removing kwa from it for aeg's. I don't mind them, but not heavily experienced with them. They are not a favorite brand (hated really) over on airsoft mechanics for being very proprietary internally & meh kwa branded externals.. $0.02

August 21st, 2013, 17:04	#8
iKliiu Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2010	Definitely CYMA and D-boys for certain models, such as AKs.

August 21st, 2013, 17:07	#9
lurkingknight "bb bukakke" KING! Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Ottawa	kwa has some weird offspec components that have no upgrades like the nozzle from what I understand. I'll shit on TM half as much as I shit on PTWs... not worth the price in canada after upgrading them to field spec, you still have a plastic bodied gun and an unreinforced potmetal gearbox that will more than likely crack. Almost all the clone brands have surpassed TM in gearbox strength. If the hop is what makes them legendary, you can achieve it by buying the TM hop unit separately an installing it into the other TM spec gun of your choice for far less money that the TM. At this point, buying a TM rifle is for the sake of buying a TM rifle, not because of its performance. TM has given us TM spec, AEG and hopup, and that's what is important about them. As a modern brand outside japan, unless you can get it for cheap, is not worth it. __________________ I futz with V2s, V3s and V6s. I could be wrong... but probably, most likely not, as far as I know.

August 21st, 2013, 17:21	#12
Danke Prancercise Guru Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Danger Zone	This thread has gone that way, once again like all it's predecessors. The best brand is the one that builds the AEG that you want in your price range and that's available in Canada. For some people that best brand is Crossman. For others it's Systema. __________________ Airsoft, where nothing is hurt but feelings.

August 21st, 2013, 17:24	#14
iKliiu Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2010	I wouldn't say VFC and LCT are ahead by miles, RS is external wise. As for the TM high cycle, 25 RPS isn't hard when the guns shoot at such a low FPS.

August 21st, 2013, 17:37	#15
lurkingknight "bb bukakke" KING! Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Ottawa	25 rps on an 8.4 is pretty easy to achieve especially at 300 fps. Either by faster gear ratio or faster motor.. since it requires so little torque to turn over the m80/90 springs in the stock TM, a faster gear ratio will get 25 rps easy. You can lego build 30rps these days without much trouble, my p90 is proof of that. __________________ I futz with V2s, V3s and V6s. I could be wrong... but probably, most likely not, as far as I know.

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