Increase Accuracy HK3P Samurai Edge M9

[Jamroxorz]

Hi everyone! So first of, I tried searching the forums for a guide on how and what to upgrade on an M9 and couldn't find anything. If I missed it, just kindly link it to me please. =]

So I have the HK3P Samurai Edge Std Mod; from what I've heard and gathered, it is a clone WE M9 Berreta? So as I was playing with it the other day I noticed I couldn't hit a ping pong ball from a mere 10 ft away. I don't believe this is because I'm incompetent because I have a TM Desert Eagle and can easily hit it for 20 ft away.

I read on another thread that when you begin to upgrade you need to choose a profile to basically go for; I want accuracy. I understand that there's a TM Samurai Edge, but after reading a review by Tarobear I believe, I decided I'd prefer to go for the better aesthetics.

So I was wondering if anyone can guide me in the right direction, parts, and assembly to make my pistol be way more accurate, and keep it in CQB limits of 350 max.

Thanks a lot!

[jordan7831]

Maybe you can try a new hop up rubber. Is it a problem with not enough velocity? Or is the gun simply inaccurate? A lot of clone and no name brand guns have shoddy hop up rubber.

[TaroBear]

Hey, it's me! Anyway, Jordan's right, that gun has a nasty, nasty rubber. I saw it when I took it apart for the review. You'll also note that despite the black colour of the inner barrel, it's NOT a tightbore. I'd change that, too. My HK3P SE clocks in around 330, so you're good to go for FPS.

Edit: When I did the review, I tested both at about 10 feet, I noticed that the HK3P only differed slightly in accuracy. The Marui, I know from experience, has excellent accuracy at farther ranges than that, however.

[Jamroxorz]

Thanks for the answers! Would you be able to tell me where the best place to acquire these two pieces would be? Also, the barrel on my pistol moves back and forth about 1 cm or so. Honestly I'm not sure if it's supposed to do that.

And great review TaroBear! =] Thanks!

[TaroBear]

Are you talking about the outer barrel? It sort of "rattles"? Mine does that too.

[Jamroxorz]

Yeah, but for me it literally moves back and forth. I'll check if it's just the outer barrel when I get home tonight.

[TaroBear]

I'd say mine moves out a centimeter or two forward and backwards, kind of like a loose tooth. But the Marui gun doesn't. The Marui, however, moves the barrel with the slide when it's pulled back, whereas the HK3P doesn't seem to do that.

[Jamroxorz]

So it's just the outer barrel? This wouldn't effect accuracy.

[TaroBear]

Not that I can tell, no. I thought you just meant it bothered you.

[Jamroxorz]

Nah, it's not that bad, was just wondering if its normal. So do you possibly know where I can get a barrel and hop-up. I couldn't find it in the regular stores =S

[drewroud]

I am having the same problem with my we glock. There are two possibilities. The first is that, like my gun, the hop up bucking does not work at all. On mine the hop up bucking would slip throught the arm that pushes it down and would have no contact on the bb. I fixed mine by putting a small piece of plastic tube right under the arm that makes sure the rubber makes contact with the bb. The second is that your slide might not be coming all the way forward, like on my gun. It seems that if the slide does not move forward all the way to the front, the hop up does not work. I fixed this by adding o rings to the guide rod to make the spring stronger, but I am not sure if this will work and I do not now anything about the mechanism of the m9.

[e-luder]

Originally Posted by drewroud

I am having the same problem with my we glock. There are two possibilities. The first is that, like my gun, the hop up bucking does not work at all. On mine the hop up bucking would slip throught the arm that pushes it down and would have no contact on the bb. I fixed mine by putting a small piece of plastic tube right under the arm that makes sure the rubber makes contact with the bb. The second is that your slide might not be coming all the way forward, like on my gun. It seems that if the slide does not move forward all the way to the front, the hop up does not work. I fixed this by adding o rings to the guide rod to make the spring stronger, but I am not sure if this will work and I do not now anything about the mechanism of the m9.

His doesnt have the same hop up assembley as your Glock. his doesn't have a hop up at all. and there is nothing that would cause his slide mot to return to full battery because things dont stick out on his hammer assembley like glocks have.

At OP, you simulate a hop up by tightening a tiny screw on top of the hop up unit. put some thing there (likena pieceof pop can) to simlatethe arm and protect the bucking. if you dont add this protective layer you will tear the bucking with the screw.

I have this gun. Its not a very accurate gun to begin with not matter how many things you change.

[Jamroxorz]

Could you possibly show a picture of what you're talking about? I don't quite understand. Thanks

[e-luder]

wrap your bucking with a piece of aluminum from a coke can.

At the top of your hop up unit, there will be a very tiny screw. That's the screw that's going to apply pressure to the bucking. Be careful though. This will never "tighten." This is because there is no screw head to stop it from turning. Thus, if you keep twisting it, it will puncture a hole in your bucking and will eventually come out on the inside of the bucking where the BB would sit.

That's why you need a layer of aluminum to protect the bucking. The aluminum material will also help distribute the force of the screw pushing down on the bucking when you tighten it and thus creating a "simulated hop-up" in your otherwise non hop gun.

It will act like the arm that applies pressure to the bucking that Drew is talking about.

[Jamroxorz]

I finally got around to looking at this and I understand what you mean. So just a piece of a pop can on to of it, very tiny