ARES M4-FF-M Problem

Ghostrecon · March 16th, 2012, 17:46

So i recently bought this gun. http://www.milsig.ca/store/index.php...oducts_id=1054

And well after having to fix a gear and latch spring its awesome...except for one thing...
the mags....

It came with one midcap mag (metal) that fits perfectly. How ever My KA mid caps do not...not even close actually. The hole where the mag release clips into doesn't fit a normal KA mag. It is about 1/2 mil to high. Iv looked at modifying the mags but even if i modify one it can still slip out if i so much as knock the mag.

Does anyone know of compatible mags? Brands? link to where to buy? Or a how to to modify either the mags (properly) or the mag release well. (i would like to avoid the latter at all costs though)

I will post picstures of the problem if i can figure out how without uploading all to facebook.

Ghostrecon · March 16th, 2012, 19:07

bump...any ideas?

JLiang · March 16th, 2012, 20:19

You don't need to bump a 2-hour old thread, but okay.

Anyways, Ares is known for terribly proprietary parts, which may or may not include the mags. You may want to take a look at Ares' mags (Not the one you have, though) and compare it to other brands.

foz · March 16th, 2012, 23:22

I have the same gun. I would check how you reassembled your gun just in case something is off. As for mags I have only had a problem with one mag. I couldn't tell you the make but it is a Canadian style poly mag. Other than that I have a number of different mags including the cheap Ares plastic mags and haven't had a problem. I bought these http://airsoftdepot.ca/catalog/produ...roducts_id=831 and they work great as well.

As for proprietary parts I think Ares built an unfortunate reputation by doing this in the past. I haven't found it to be the case with their new stuff.
I should add I don't have any KA mags.

▼Stripes▲ · March 17th, 2012, 02:15

Ares mags are "Shooter" brand mags. For metal they're like 17 a piece. I don't know where to get them online though. Greenbox p-mags also work according to most youtube reviews if albeit a kinda tight fit.

THe_Silencer · March 17th, 2012, 03:05

Try getting some STAR mags, they're really cheap and should fit.

Ghostrecon · March 22nd, 2012, 02:05

I tried Emags and they didnt fit at all....

Also for the man that said they have the same gun...
Is the ff-M? or the ff-l? they look the same (not sure of difference) and there is also the ff-cqb that looks more like a shortenedM4 with a built on front sight.

Also the green label are famous for not feeding right and not working out of box....so id like to avoid that if possible. And arnt the emags and Green label almost the same?

▼Stripes▲ · March 22nd, 2012, 04:14

They all use the same lower receiver so specific model shouldn't matter. At this point I'd say just take it to your local shop and see what fits. But again shooter mags are guaranteed to work.

THe_Silencer · March 22nd, 2012, 04:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghostrecon

I tried Emags and they didnt fit at all....

Also the green label are famous for not feeding right and not working out of box....so id like to avoid that if possible. And arnt the emags and Green label almost the same?

Wouldn't hurt to try, considering Star and Ares were practically the same company not too long ago.

Ghostrecon · March 22nd, 2012, 04:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by ▼Stripes▲

They all use the same lower receiver so specific model shouldn't matter. At this point I'd say just take it to your local shop and see what fits. But again shooter mags are guaranteed to work.

Would you happen to have a link to a shooter site?
Iv tried looking but you try googelig shooter brand mags lol all iget is every site that says shooter...and there are a LOT

And i will prob take my Ares to Capital airsoft (local shop) and try to find a mag. Im just not sure they will have a mag. they usually only have KA and well i know that wont work haha

Also i never knew star and ares were together...thats almost frightening considering stars reputation lol

▼Stripes▲ · March 22nd, 2012, 12:03

I can't find an online store either but I did find their catalogue.

http://aresairsoft.com/mag.html

Talk to your local shop owner if you want them ordered. They're a little steep but they're made of steel and they feed well I haven't had a single misfeed during three all day games.

Kupalranger · March 22nd, 2012, 12:46

I have an ares m4, and I use King arms mid caps. You can get them at some local retailers or redwolf. It fits perfectly, after you add some tape around it.

Ghostrecon · March 22nd, 2012, 16:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kupalranger

I have an ares m4, and I use King arms mid caps. You can get them at some local retailers or redwolf. It fits perfectly, after you add some tape around it.

Iv tried that....it wont even lock...the best i can do is jam it in there...but then i have to hold the mag tight in it and well suffice to say it becomes a huge pain in the ass with feeding issues...and im lucky if i can get it to ACTUALLY shoot once out of every 10 times i try lol.

Ghostrecon · March 22nd, 2012, 17:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by ▼Stripes▲

I can't find an online store either but I did find their catalogue.

http://aresairsoft.com/mag.html

Talk to your local shop owner if you want them ordered. They're a little steep but they're made of steel and they feed well I haven't had a single misfeed during three all day games.

Ya i found that catalogue too....and after EXTENSIVE searching i finally found this http://www.armorytechairsoft.com/aeg...ne-130-rd.html
It LOOKS like the one that came with the gun....a fairly good price
Ares brand.....9.99......same color (hoping same mag)......i think i may have to bite the bullet and order them lol

▼Stripes▲ · March 23rd, 2012, 04:01

If only I found this a week ago. I'd have 'em instead the crappy chinese pmags I got on the way.

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March 16th, 2012, 17:46	#1
Ghostrecon Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2010	ARES M4-FF-M Problem So i recently bought this gun. http://www.milsig.ca/store/index.php...oducts_id=1054 And well after having to fix a gear and latch spring its awesome...except for one thing... the mags.... It came with one midcap mag (metal) that fits perfectly. How ever My KA mid caps do not...not even close actually. The hole where the mag release clips into doesn't fit a normal KA mag. It is about 1/2 mil to high. Iv looked at modifying the mags but even if i modify one it can still slip out if i so much as knock the mag. Does anyone know of compatible mags? Brands? link to where to buy? Or a how to to modify either the mags (properly) or the mag release well. (i would like to avoid the latter at all costs though) I will post picstures of the problem if i can figure out how without uploading all to facebook.

March 16th, 2012, 20:19	#3
JLiang Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Waterloo, ON	You don't need to bump a 2-hour old thread, but okay. Anyways, Ares is known for terribly proprietary parts, which may or may not include the mags. You may want to take a look at Ares' mags (Not the one you have, though) and compare it to other brands. __________________ []]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] ------)_'_\ * ( "----------\ * \ "-----------\_*_\

March 16th, 2012, 23:22	#4
foz Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Kitchener	I have the same gun. I would check how you reassembled your gun just in case something is off. As for mags I have only had a problem with one mag. I couldn't tell you the make but it is a Canadian style poly mag. Other than that I have a number of different mags including the cheap Ares plastic mags and haven't had a problem. I bought these http://airsoftdepot.ca/catalog/produ...roducts_id=831 and they work great as well. As for proprietary parts I think Ares built an unfortunate reputation by doing this in the past. I haven't found it to be the case with their new stuff. I should add I don't have any KA mags. Last edited by foz; March 16th, 2012 at 23:26..

March 16th, 2012, 19:07	#2
Ghostrecon Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2010	bump...any ideas?

March 17th, 2012, 02:15	#5
▼Stripes▲ Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2011	Ares mags are "Shooter" brand mags. For metal they're like 17 a piece. I don't know where to get them online though. Greenbox p-mags also work according to most youtube reviews if albeit a kinda tight fit. __________________ If you know the enemy and know yourself, then you need not fear the outcome of a hundred battles. If you know your enemy and not yourself, for every victory earned, you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy or yourself, you will succumb, in every battle. -Sun Tzu

March 17th, 2012, 03:05	#6
THe_Silencer Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Hamilton,ON	Try getting some STAR mags, they're really cheap and should fit. __________________ It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it - Aristotle -Founder of Steel City Hamilton Infantry and Tactics -Certified level 43 Autosniper by Commander Amos

March 22nd, 2012, 02:05	#7
Ghostrecon Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2010	I tried Emags and they didnt fit at all.... Also for the man that said they have the same gun... Is the ff-M? or the ff-l? they look the same (not sure of difference) and there is also the ff-cqb that looks more like a shortenedM4 with a built on front sight. Also the green label are famous for not feeding right and not working out of box....so id like to avoid that if possible. And arnt the emags and Green label almost the same?

March 22nd, 2012, 04:14	#8
▼Stripes▲ Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2011	They all use the same lower receiver so specific model shouldn't matter. At this point I'd say just take it to your local shop and see what fits. But again shooter mags are guaranteed to work. __________________ If you know the enemy and know yourself, then you need not fear the outcome of a hundred battles. If you know your enemy and not yourself, for every victory earned, you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy or yourself, you will succumb, in every battle. -Sun Tzu

March 22nd, 2012, 12:03	#11
▼Stripes▲ Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2011	I can't find an online store either but I did find their catalogue. http://aresairsoft.com/mag.html Talk to your local shop owner if you want them ordered. They're a little steep but they're made of steel and they feed well I haven't had a single misfeed during three all day games. __________________ If you know the enemy and know yourself, then you need not fear the outcome of a hundred battles. If you know your enemy and not yourself, for every victory earned, you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy or yourself, you will succumb, in every battle. -Sun Tzu

March 22nd, 2012, 12:46	#12
Kupalranger Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Calgary, Alberta	I have an ares m4, and I use King arms mid caps. You can get them at some local retailers or redwolf. It fits perfectly, after you add some tape around it.

March 23rd, 2012, 04:01	#15
▼Stripes▲ Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2011	If only I found this a week ago. I'd have 'em instead the crappy chinese pmags I got on the way. __________________ If you know the enemy and know yourself, then you need not fear the outcome of a hundred battles. If you know your enemy and not yourself, for every victory earned, you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy or yourself, you will succumb, in every battle. -Sun Tzu

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