WE AWSS Gen 4 + Open Bolt + CO2?

[Huron]

As the title states, I'm interested in the survivability and reliability of a Gen4 AWSS M4 with an open bolt conversion being run on CO2. Need as much information and experience as possible.

Thanks in advance

[Shirley]

I'm wanted to know this too. How are the mags durability and leakage for co2 compared to green gas?

[Ross]

From personal experience the co2 mags leak just as much as the green gas mags.

[kullwarrior]

Why are we having another thread on Open Chamber?
We have an OC discussion one already.

As for the gun running in CO2...
let me put it this way,

pot metal + 130psi (propane) = bad for mid-long term (10-16k life expectancy for internal)
pot metal + 150psi (regulated co2) =bad overall

If you want to run long term on CO2 I highly suggest you replace all the moving parts with steel.
-Bolt Carrier
-Hammer
-Disconnector aka 'Sear' for those who have no idea what they're talking about
-Trigger
-Valve Release Assembly aka Firing Pin
-Valve Locker
-Nozzle (add the iHop system to help strengthen the nozzle port)

[Greydingoe]

Hey Kull,

I've contacted Ra tech and they said that they won't be selling the ihop system. How did you go about procuring one for yourself?

[Huron]

Originally Posted by kullwarrior

Why are we having another thread on Open Chamber?
We have an OC discussion one already.

As for the gun running in CO2...
let me put it this way,

pot metal + 130psi (propane) = bad for mid-long term (10-16k life expectancy for internal)
pot metal + 150psi (regulated co2) =bad overall

If you want to run long term on CO2 I highly suggest you replace all the moving parts with steel.
-Bolt Carrier
-Hammer
-Disconnector aka 'Sear' for those who have no idea what they're talking about
-Trigger
-Valve Release Assembly aka Firing Pin
-Valve Locker
-Nozzle (add the iHop system to help strengthen the nozzle port)

I was already planning to upgrade to steel, and this thread is regarding a converted closed chamber to open chamber gun, which may have disadvantages over a gun designed out of the box for open chamber. I'd like to know if there are manufacturing differences that could act as weak points once converted to open chamber.

[kullwarrior]

Originally Posted by Greydingoe

Hey Kull,

I've contacted Ra tech and they said that they won't be selling the ihop system. How did you go about procuring one for yourself?

*Scratches head*
http://en.ratech.com.tw/product/html...detail_072.php

Originally Posted by GabeGuitarded

I was already planning to upgrade to steel, and this thread is regarding a converted closed chamber to open chamber gun, which may have disadvantages over a gun designed out of the box for open chamber. I'd like to know if there are manufacturing differences that could act as weak points once converted to open chamber.

Let me sum it up,
Except WE m16A1, the upper receiver are all identical
All WE AR-15 lower Receiver are identical
There's no difference between getting an AWSS converted to Open Chamber and buying an Open Chamber one.

[Drake]

Okay I gotta ask... WTF is the iHop? Sounds like i should be ordering from iTunes.

[Reckless]

Originally Posted by Drake

Okay I gotta ask... WTF is the iHop? Sounds like i should be ordering from iTunes.

hell I was getting excited thinking about a Pancake dispensing GBBR ....

[turok_t]

Originally Posted by Drake

Okay I gotta ask... WTF is the iHop? Sounds like i should be ordering from iTunes.

Its a type of hop up rubber that RA tech makes that has two contact points as the nub. It looks like this |--|

[Fox62]

Anyone try the I-Hop then? Is it just a bucking (18 bucks for a bucking O.o?)? How does it compare to the Falcon 80 Degree Bucking? Would that be any useful, even if you don't use the steel bolt?


Fox.

[kullwarrior]

Originally Posted by Fox62

Anyone try the I-Hop then? Is it just a bucking (18 bucks for a bucking O.o?)? How does it compare to the Falcon 80 Degree Bucking? Would that be any useful, even if you don't use the steel bolt?


Fox.

*face palm*
It NOT JUST A BUCKING LIKE I SAID ABOVE
The reason I like it better than other H shape bucking is that, it reinforces the plastic nozzle port. For those who knows, the nozzle port is usually the first to go when it breaks.

[Fox62]

Originally Posted by kullwarrior

*face palm*
It NOT JUST A BUCKING LIKE I SAID ABOVE
The reason I like it better than other H shape bucking is that, it reinforces the plastic nozzle port. For those who knows, the nozzle port is usually the first to go when it breaks.

So what is it exactly? The information you are giving is very poor. I know my gun inside out, and I can't figure out exactly what parts this "I-Hop" thing replaces. Ra-Tech is terrible with marketing and customer service...


Fox.