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Old June 7th, 2011, 11:38   #1
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Best motor for support AEG?

Hi,

I m running a ARES G36 (no blowback) at 400 fps with TB. 9.6v large battery on it.

I m looking at getting a motor that can shoot 15 BB per second for long long burst.

Anyone had good comments about specific motor / brand?

Thanks
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Old June 7th, 2011, 11:41   #2
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G&P m160 or higher
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Old June 7th, 2011, 13:18   #3
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Any of the G&P motors, M160 might be too strong though.

Take the motor to an RC car place and get them to lathe the comm so it's perfectly round and balance the motor, the motor will draw MUCH less from the batteries and preform much better.
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Old June 7th, 2011, 14:19   #4
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I ran my 1500rpm, 360fps M249 off a G&P M140 with triple torque gears. Lasted a whole year.
Since you don't have an SW-COMP, it should last WAY longer for you. Active braking really kills motors.
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Old June 7th, 2011, 14:21   #5
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Or you move up to a 10.8v NiXx Battery or LiFePo or LiPo using the same motor.
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Old June 7th, 2011, 14:28   #6
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1. G&P M160 motor with 120 spring, 11.1 lipo 350 fps .25s 19 bbps. 9.6 nicad 14 bbps.
2. G&P M170 motor with 130 spring, 11.1 lipo 400 fps .25s 21 bbps, 9.6 nimh 15 bbps.

1. TM MP5 RAS with all internal upgrades
2. G&P MK18 with all internal upgrades. High torque gears ect.
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Old June 7th, 2011, 18:09   #7
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1. G&P M160 motor with 120 spring, 11.1 lipo 350 fps .25s 19 bbps. 9.6 nicad 14 bbps.
2. G&P M170 motor with 130 spring, 11.1 lipo 400 fps .25s 21 bbps, 9.6 nimh 15 bbps.

1. TM MP5 RAS with all internal upgrades
2. G&P MK18 with all internal upgrades. High torque gears ect.
You should specifically state what C rating and brand of battery you're using. They''s a HUGE disparity in performance between different brand of 11.1v batteries. IE. Firefox lipos are shit.

P90 w/ G&P M160 motor @ 360 FPS .2s
1. GE Power 11.1v 1800mAh 16C: 38 bbps
2. G&P 9.6v mini 1600mAh: 17 bbps

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Basically, a 9.6 mini or a small 7.4v lipo will get you 15 bbps easily with one of the G&P high torque motors.
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Old June 8th, 2011, 04:15   #8
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If you don't have the proper C rating for the setup your using, you shouldn't be using that battery anyway lol
I've seen 3 people now melt RC cars due to upgrading the motor and not upgrading their batteries
Haven't seen it happen in airsoft yet, but I'm keeping an eye out for those buffer tube bombs.
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Old June 30th, 2011, 10:45   #9
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Hi guys, try to use high-speed gears (high speed ratio) on a 9.6v sub-C battery or a lipoly battery plus piston body with titanium teeth. I hope that helps.
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Old July 1st, 2011, 00:53   #10
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You don't need full metal teeth to run 1500rpm

And 15BB/second is only 900rpm, that's a stock gun on a 9.6v mini lol
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Old July 1st, 2011, 18:27   #11
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If you don't have the proper C rating for the setup your using, you shouldn't be using that battery anyway lol
I've seen 3 people now melt RC cars due to upgrading the motor and not upgrading their batteries
Haven't seen it happen in airsoft yet, but I'm keeping an eye out for those buffer tube bombs.
I have destroyed 3 buffer lipo's now. 2 hot power and 1 G&P, all started puffing in the buffer tube. The 11.1 hot power started smoking in my the tube.
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Old July 1st, 2011, 20:44   #12
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I would got with a JG blue motor... they are hard to find but are REALLY nice.

If you use any motor with neodymium magnets (they are silver), a 7.2v large (4000mAh+) battery will give you that ROF and a lot of run time.

You can also go with a LiPo 7.4v around 3000mAh if you are using the forestock or a 5000mAh if you are using a battery pouch/KV stock

Lastly, you can get a SRC motor and have it rewound to 27T (stock marui EG1000 is 21T). More torque, more speed (because of the tighter coils) and near perfect balance if made properly and re-balanced after. Some hobbyshops will rewind motors.
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Old July 1st, 2011, 22:48   #13
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I have destroyed 3 buffer lipo's now. 2 hot power and 1 G&P, all started puffing in the buffer tube. The 11.1 hot power started smoking in my the tube.
well after 3 failures, did you at least learn something?
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Old July 2nd, 2011, 00:25   #14
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well after 3 failures, did you at least learn something?
Stop buying buffertube lipos?
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Old July 2nd, 2011, 03:05   #15
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Or have a low voltage cut off,Lipo's don't like being dicharged too low! I'v been running the Firefox ones in my PTW for a couple of years now.
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