TSD/WE M9 Military Spec. Extended or KJW Glock 27

S7EVIN · April 17th, 2011, 19:33

Can't decide which would be the better buy, I already have a KJW Glock 27, but I am thinking of getting a second one for upgrading, and want to know which would be better. Or your opinion.

Rugger_can · April 17th, 2011, 19:38

Have you considered KWA PTP (either M9 or 1911/HiCapa)

If you got AV'ed you would be BLOWN away how cheap you could get one from some of the retailers round these parts.

Or of course the venerable upgrade king the TM HiCapa

Styrak · April 17th, 2011, 19:41

Neither, get something better.

S7EVIN · April 17th, 2011, 19:44

Ok, but I need a cheaper gun. I'm trying to see how well I can upgrade one of these.

Specs · April 17th, 2011, 19:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by S7EVIN

Ok, but I need a cheaper gun. I'm trying to see how well I can upgrade one of these.

Are you thick? Get AVd.

Strelok · April 17th, 2011, 19:47

Lol.

Why not buy a gun that can actually be upgraded properly.

KWA/KSC. Or, you guessed it.

TM. The TM Hicapa is the most upgradable pistol out there at the moment. And why not just save up for a gun? You have your precious Glock, it wont kill you to wait and save up for something that doesn't suck

Quote:

Originally Posted by Specs

Are you thick? Get AVd.

I don't think thick is the proper word for it.

Disco_Dante · April 17th, 2011, 19:56

The kjw will be better than the WE. WE makes crap pistols, KJW pistols are pretty decent.

Rugger_can · April 17th, 2011, 19:59

You already have a cheap gun.

Listen to this advice. I am being honest and I genuinely believe that it will benefit you (both in your enjoyment of the game and financially).

Get age verified.

Check retailer section.

Buy a KWA/KSC

OR

Save up your pennies and buy a TM.

You WILL appreciate the difference and it WILL save you considerable amount of money.

Cheers.

S7EVIN · April 17th, 2011, 20:32

I understand. I don't have the time to get AV'd, I don't need the classifieds yet because I have some retailers that I buy from already with decent prices. I do in fact have a TM, Glock 17, which is quite customizable, I bought it already customized. But my 'project' is to find a crappy gun and customize until it performs or looks extremely 'cool'. Oh, and I'm not thick, I don't have the time to meet up with someone ATM, but in the future I think I will.

Alceister · April 17th, 2011, 20:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by S7EVIN

...my 'project' is to find a crappy gun and customize until it performs or looks extremely 'cool'.

Got money to piss, yeah?

You've already complained earlier about the price on Tokyo Marui guns but now you're wanting to buy a crappy gun and trying to improve on it, which will likely cost more than simply getting a Tokyo Marui.

Strelok · April 17th, 2011, 20:42

Sometimes I wonder why we give out advice when people already seem to have everything planned out in their head.

Why bother ask for it if you're just going to shoo it off?

S7EVIN · April 17th, 2011, 21:20

What are you talking about? None of you are answering my question! You are all so intent on trying to give me advice on getting better guns and crap when what I am trying to is ignored! Either answer, or don't, but please don't lecture me on TM, or what crappy guns they are because trust me, I know! And yes, I have enough money to upgrade the guns, but I don't want another TM.

ap27 · April 17th, 2011, 21:26

If its an M9 you're looking for, I'd recommend staying away from the clones. KWA/KSC and Tokyo Marui would be much better. Speaking from experience here, I own a WE M9, and while its got a good heft, magazines are pretty bad, its not consistent in its shots, and the hopup isn't adjustable so I cant do much about it.

If you want the best out-of-the-box M9, go for the KWA M9 PTP. It doesnt have much in the way of upgraded parts (most parts are KWA proprietary) yet since its a new gas system, but they'll start popping up soon. Besides the KWA/KSC NS2/System7 system is one of the most gas-efficient ones right now.

For upgradeability Tokyo Marui would be better. Almost all upgrade parts are made for the TM, and clones like WE sometimes have trouble accepting them. A TM with metal slide/frame and basic propane upgrades (valves and such) shooting at 300fps will still shoot and feel much better than a potmetal WE shooting 330 fps.

AV Fact: I've seen KWA M9 PTP's on here that are in the same price range as the KJW M9 listed on 007Airsoft, which is half plastic, and a TM clone.

Out of those two (although I dont know why you would want two of the same gun) the KJW Glock would be a better choice.

Strelok · April 17th, 2011, 21:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by S7EVIN

What are you talking about? None of you are answering my question! You are all so intent on trying to give me advice on getting better guns and crap when what I am trying to is ignored! Either answer, or don't, but please don't lecture me on TM, or what crappy guns they are because trust me, I know! And yes, I have enough money to upgrade the guns, but I don't want another TM.

Ignored as in how? You're ignoring us because we're not giving you the answers you want to hear.

You asked about what would be better for upgrading. Neither really are, we have mentioned that. And people have given you options for a better platform to upgrade upon.

We are telling you to buy something other than WE pistols for a reason. They're shit. People here have experience with WE pistols being shit. They're not pulling this information out of their ass just to give you guff.

They're telling you the goddamn truth, and you don't seem to want to accept that. You have this little idea in your head that your options are the best out there when realistically, they are not.

What I don't understand is, you can just as easily buy a quality gun, buy quality upgrade parts and get one hell of a shooter in the end. It will be worth the money and you'll have an impressive gun once you're done.

Upgrading low quality guns are tedious. Parts dont match up properly, one thing leads up to another part breaking due to tolerance issues and so on. The gun will end up being one hell of a money sink and cost more than what a quality gun would have ended up going for.

Just try to expand your options rather than settling on one or two things. People here, including myself are trying to give you a hand and save you from a headache.

Styrak · April 17th, 2011, 22:04

Is this guy just an attention whore who like to make threads for people to talk to?
Because he sure isn't taking any advice in any of them.

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April 17th, 2011, 19:33	#1
S7EVIN Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2011	TSD/WE M9 Military Spec. Extended or KJW Glock 27 Can't decide which would be the better buy, I already have a KJW Glock 27, but I am thinking of getting a second one for upgrading, and want to know which would be better. Or your opinion.

April 17th, 2011, 19:41	#3
Styrak Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Saskatoon, SK	Neither, get something better. __________________ Airsoft Sales and Repair/Upgrade Services

April 17th, 2011, 19:56	#7
Disco_Dante Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: GTA	The kjw will be better than the WE. WE makes crap pistols, KJW pistols are pretty decent. __________________ Not for glory, nor riches, nor honours, but for freedom alone, which no good man gives up except with his life.

April 17th, 2011, 19:38	#2
Rugger_can Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Downtown Ottawa	Have you considered KWA PTP (either M9 or 1911/HiCapa) If you got AV'ed you would be BLOWN away how cheap you could get one from some of the retailers round these parts. Or of course the venerable upgrade king the TM HiCapa

April 17th, 2011, 19:44	#4
S7EVIN Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2011	Ok, but I need a cheaper gun. I'm trying to see how well I can upgrade one of these.

April 17th, 2011, 19:59	#8
Rugger_can Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Downtown Ottawa	You already have a cheap gun. Listen to this advice. I am being honest and I genuinely believe that it will benefit you (both in your enjoyment of the game and financially). Get age verified. Check retailer section. Buy a KWA/KSC OR Save up your pennies and buy a TM. You WILL appreciate the difference and it WILL save you considerable amount of money. Cheers.

April 17th, 2011, 20:32	#9
S7EVIN Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2011	I understand. I don't have the time to get AV'd, I don't need the classifieds yet because I have some retailers that I buy from already with decent prices. I do in fact have a TM, Glock 17, which is quite customizable, I bought it already customized. But my 'project' is to find a crappy gun and customize until it performs or looks extremely 'cool'. Oh, and I'm not thick, I don't have the time to meet up with someone ATM, but in the future I think I will.

April 17th, 2011, 20:42	#11
Strelok Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Brandon Manitoba	Sometimes I wonder why we give out advice when people already seem to have everything planned out in their head. Why bother ask for it if you're just going to shoo it off?

April 17th, 2011, 21:20	#12
S7EVIN Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2011	What are you talking about? None of you are answering my question! You are all so intent on trying to give me advice on getting better guns and crap when what I am trying to is ignored! Either answer, or don't, but please don't lecture me on TM, or what crappy guns they are because trust me, I know! And yes, I have enough money to upgrade the guns, but I don't want another TM.

April 17th, 2011, 21:26	#13
ap27 Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Milton, ON	If its an M9 you're looking for, I'd recommend staying away from the clones. KWA/KSC and Tokyo Marui would be much better. Speaking from experience here, I own a WE M9, and while its got a good heft, magazines are pretty bad, its not consistent in its shots, and the hopup isn't adjustable so I cant do much about it. If you want the best out-of-the-box M9, go for the KWA M9 PTP. It doesnt have much in the way of upgraded parts (most parts are KWA proprietary) yet since its a new gas system, but they'll start popping up soon. Besides the KWA/KSC NS2/System7 system is one of the most gas-efficient ones right now. For upgradeability Tokyo Marui would be better. Almost all upgrade parts are made for the TM, and clones like WE sometimes have trouble accepting them. A TM with metal slide/frame and basic propane upgrades (valves and such) shooting at 300fps will still shoot and feel much better than a potmetal WE shooting 330 fps. AV Fact: I've seen KWA M9 PTP's on here that are in the same price range as the KJW M9 listed on 007Airsoft, which is half plastic, and a TM clone. Out of those two (although I dont know why you would want two of the same gun) the KJW Glock would be a better choice. __________________ H&K G36c (KWA) / Glock 18c (TM) / Kimber LAPD SWAT Custom (TM) / Mossberg M500 (ACM) Last edited by ap27; April 17th, 2011 at 21:31..

April 17th, 2011, 22:04	#15
Styrak Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Saskatoon, SK	Is this guy just an attention whore who like to make threads for people to talk to? Because he sure isn't taking any advice in any of them. __________________ Airsoft Sales and Repair/Upgrade Services

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