TM D.E. Gas filling problem

Yankee · May 8th, 2010, 11:34

Hi guys,

This question will probably sound newbish but I just received my TM D.E. Hardkick and I can't get to put the gas inside.

I am using AI Propane Adapter and the gas leak out as soon as I start putting it inside.

Am I missing something? Do I have to unscrew a bolt? I am able to get some gas inside but 75% of it just go in the air and I am able only to shoot like 5-6 round.

Sorry for bad english.

Yankee · May 8th, 2010, 14:01

It's like the gas just enter partially the mag. Do I have to unscrew the bolt so the gas can pass better?

-Trooper- · May 8th, 2010, 14:09

Sounds like you might have to regrease the seals.

AngelusNex · May 9th, 2010, 07:27

is the mag in the gun while your filling it?

Rugger_can · May 9th, 2010, 07:39

Where is it leaking from?

The top port or the injection port?

Also, is the valve stiff or "sticky" when depressed?

And no, do not "unscrew" anything yet. Leave it the way it is until you have answered the following questions.

Affliction · May 9th, 2010, 09:24

You're probably not pushing down hard enough.

Yankee · May 9th, 2010, 10:28

The mag is not in the pistol while I fill it.

It's not really a leak, it's just that the gas spread everywhere, I can get to fit it in the "hole".

Any idea?

The mag is brand new Btw.

Dart · May 9th, 2010, 17:06

The fill valve my just be stiff. Pull it out and put some silly oil on it just to ensure that part is moving. I know TM mags are bad for seals on fill valves *like the seal from the valve to the green gas stem* On my buddies mk.23 it would spew out the sides while filling than it would change the sound of the spewing when its full... nothing like my mac11 mags which is a perfect seal.

edit* is your bottle full? are you using green gas, propane, or duster.

Yankee · May 9th, 2010, 18:23

I am using green gas. I know it is bad for a Marui, but for now this is all that I have. I plan to buy a duster adapter and some duster air if I can find hfc134a.

The bottle is fine, I tested with another mag.

Btw, can you explain in detail what to do to unscrew the thing? My english isn't that good...

Thenooblord · May 9th, 2010, 18:31

green gas isnt bad for marui, they run fine

Slash · May 9th, 2010, 18:36

I heard GBB made for HFC134A could break (the slide) if Green Gas was used.

I've also seen that on some forum.

Amos · May 9th, 2010, 18:46

... It sounds like you're filling a marui mag..

Gas will leak out as you fill, and even more will leak out when the mag is full.

Slash · May 9th, 2010, 19:13

I always thought Marui made great GBB except the fact they're plastic.

Amos · May 9th, 2010, 19:19

They do.. gas coming out of the magazine while filling is perfectly normal... it's supposed to do that so the gas INSIDE the mag doesn't get over pressured.

TM is my favorite GBB brand

Yankee · May 10th, 2010, 13:24

I feel like I'm throwing away half of the gas while I fill it... so in your opinion I should just push harder?

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May 8th, 2010, 11:34	#1
Yankee NessMcCool Trader rating Join Date: May 2008	TM D.E. Gas filling problem Hi guys, This question will probably sound newbish but I just received my TM D.E. Hardkick and I can't get to put the gas inside. I am using AI Propane Adapter and the gas leak out as soon as I start putting it inside. Am I missing something? Do I have to unscrew a bolt? I am able to get some gas inside but 75% of it just go in the air and I am able only to shoot like 5-6 round. Sorry for bad english.

May 8th, 2010, 14:09	#3
-Trooper- a.k.a. Egria Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Vancouver	Sounds like you might have to regrease the seals. __________________ PURVEYOR OF FINE PARACORD PRODUCTS www.beaconconceptsco.com Click Here For ASC Thread Team GHOSTS - G86

May 9th, 2010, 18:36	#11
Slash a.k.a. Jester-1 Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Montréal	I heard GBB made for HFC134A could break (the slide) if Green Gas was used. I've also seen that on some forum. Last edited by Slash; May 9th, 2010 at 19:21..

May 8th, 2010, 14:01	#2
Yankee NessMcCool Trader rating Join Date: May 2008	It's like the gas just enter partially the mag. Do I have to unscrew the bolt so the gas can pass better?

May 9th, 2010, 07:27	#4
AngelusNex formerly Sepulcrum Trader rating Join Date: May 2007 Location: Kingston,ON, aka Funkasia	is the mag in the gun while your filling it?

May 9th, 2010, 07:39	#5
Rugger_can Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Downtown Ottawa	Where is it leaking from? The top port or the injection port? Also, is the valve stiff or "sticky" when depressed? And no, do not "unscrew" anything yet. Leave it the way it is until you have answered the following questions.

May 9th, 2010, 09:24	#6
Affliction a.k.a. Fury a.k.a. VipaMave Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Markham-ON	You're probably not pushing down hard enough.

May 9th, 2010, 10:28	#7
Yankee NessMcCool Trader rating Join Date: May 2008	The mag is not in the pistol while I fill it. It's not really a leak, it's just that the gas spread everywhere, I can get to fit it in the "hole". Any idea? The mag is brand new Btw.

May 9th, 2010, 17:06	#8
Dart Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Grande Prairie Alberta	The fill valve my just be stiff. Pull it out and put some silly oil on it just to ensure that part is moving. I know TM mags are bad for seals on fill valves like the seal from the valve to the green gas stem On my buddies mk.23 it would spew out the sides while filling than it would change the sound of the spewing when its full... nothing like my mac11 mags which is a perfect seal. edit* is your bottle full? are you using green gas, propane, or duster.

May 9th, 2010, 18:23	#9
Yankee NessMcCool Trader rating Join Date: May 2008	I am using green gas. I know it is bad for a Marui, but for now this is all that I have. I plan to buy a duster adapter and some duster air if I can find hfc134a. The bottle is fine, I tested with another mag. Btw, can you explain in detail what to do to unscrew the thing? My english isn't that good...

May 9th, 2010, 18:46	#12
Amos Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Japan	... It sounds like you're filling a marui mag.. Gas will leak out as you fill, and even more will leak out when the mag is full. __________________ Custom Builds: FA3674U Krinkov G3SD6

May 9th, 2010, 19:13	#13
Slash a.k.a. Jester-1 Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Montréal	I always thought Marui made great GBB except the fact they're plastic. __________________ Last edited by Slash; May 9th, 2010 at 19:21..

May 9th, 2010, 19:19	#14
Amos Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Japan	They do.. gas coming out of the magazine while filling is perfectly normal... it's supposed to do that so the gas INSIDE the mag doesn't get over pressured. TM is my favorite GBB brand __________________ Custom Builds: FA3674U Krinkov G3SD6

May 10th, 2010, 13:24	#15
Yankee NessMcCool Trader rating Join Date: May 2008	I feel like I'm throwing away half of the gas while I fill it... so in your opinion I should just push harder?

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