Does the Transform4 from evike.com come with rails?

[daishi]

Yah, he is a new person that clearly doesn't value everyone elses experience, and thinks he is the only person to try this. At this point yah man, knock yourself out. Go with evike, enjoy American gun with no way to warranty or get it repaired, and probably a higher cost then what you could have in Canada. My god how stupid we all are to tell you to buy it here. What a bunch of dorks we are.

[FirestormX]

To be fair to the OP, that's not what was explained to him.
The logic provided to the OP was that "it is cheaper buy the gun local". He then took that into consideration, and applied the logic provided by everyone (about the UPS fees, etc) to the entire order he is making.

I don't see the OP being argumentative or anything. He's just explaining that, with the additional information provided to him, it still makes better financial sense to place the entire order from evike.

But to the OP: there is value in buying in-country that goes beyond just the cost. Warranty, repair, no risk of it getting seized at the border, and quicker to receive the gun.
It also supports local retailers. Prices for airsoft guns won't go down, and retailers won't lobby for better import laws, unless there's a market for it.

[BioRage]

Originally Posted by FirestormX

To be fair to the OP, that's not what was explained to him.
The logic provided to the OP was that "it is cheaper buy the gun local". He then took that into consideration, and applied the logic provided by everyone (about the UPS fees, etc) to the entire order he is making.

I don't see the OP being argumentative or anything. He's just explaining that, with the additional information provided to him, it still makes better financial sense to place the entire order from evike.

But to the OP: there is value in buying in-country that goes beyond just the cost. Warranty, repair, no risk of it getting seized at the border, and quicker to receive the gun.
It also supports local retailers. Prices for airsoft guns won't go down, and retailers won't lobby for better import laws, unless there's a market for it.

I'd say local be better, as long as he is of age

but we can only give him suggestions, so, just let him order from the states, so he can experience it.

[Rossco66]

UPS is the biggest f'ing scam going. I paid $32 in fees on a $28 item the first and last time I shipped with UPS. That was before duty and taxes. F'ing fiasco.

God dam crooks.

[RainyEyes]

Originally Posted by williamj2543

Transform4 Proline CXP 261 (the long version): 319
M100 and M95 Spring: 8.20 each
190r M4 Midcap mags: FREE with the gun promo
Matrix 2x42 Red dot scope w/ rails: 36$
Total Cost in cart right now is 372$
Shipping is UPS Worldwide expidited (I can choose priority worldwide which isn't UPS, does that reduce the duties I will pay?) for 45$
Now we are at 417 USD
Which is 506 CAD right now including the 5 midcap mags scope and 2 springs
Minus 40$ from my friend is 466$, only 10$ more excluding duties.
If duties only amounts to about 50 which I am expecting it is about equal for MUCH more stuff
Or 450$ at Mach1 for just the gun. This many Midcaps will make it much over 500$ and I dont get the scope OR the springs.

So I think evike is better IMO

Looking over your math and questions, I have to preface this post with a question: are you retarded?

40 dollars from your friend is 466... so that's 506 total? You didn't pay, your friend paid. But it's okay because it's not from YOUR pocket, but someone else's.

Riiight... I know your type...

YOU ARE STILL PAYING 40 DOLLARS CAD FROM SOMEWHERE; UNLESS THE RETAILER COVERS FOR IT, I DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD COUNT IT AS A DISCOUNT.

Let's go over your shopping list 1 more time.

Transform 4:..... 319 USD (aka 389 CAD)
Springs: ............18 USD
Matrix RDS: .......36 USD
5 mags: ............40 USD
S&H: ...............45 USD
Duty: ...............75 CAD or 62 USD/ or 50CAD or 41 USD
Total:
About 520 USD or 634.21 CAD, not to mention brokerage fees. There is still a sales tax ontop of duties if applicable.

Compared to domestic shopping list:

Transform 4: .....389 CAD (AKA 319 USD)
Springs: .............24 CAD
Magazines: .........50 CAD
Matrix RDS: ........72 CAD (lazy, only found one store in Canada that sold them so prices vary)
S&H: .................25 CAD (Canada post, expedited) some retailers have free shipping so lookout for that
Total: ..............560 CAD (633 CAD after tax @13%)

So the difference is about 1 dollar, minus 1 midcap. If the midcap is so important to you, go ahead. Anticipate that duty is OVER 50 dollars because ICS is a Taiwan Manufacturer so it's going to charge you like crazy. I assume you do not know how duties work.

[williamj2543]

Yep thanks guys I have ordered from canada and it cost me 487 dollars including the 2 springs.

[williamj2543]

Originally Posted by RainyEyes

Looking over your math and questions, I have to preface this post with a question: are you retarded?

40 dollars from your friend is 466... so that's 506 total? You didn't pay, your friend paid. But it's okay because it's not from YOUR pocket, but someone else's.

Riiight... I know your type...

YOU ARE STILL PAYING 40 DOLLARS CAD FROM SOMEWHERE; UNLESS THE RETAILER COVERS FOR IT, I DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD COUNT IT AS A DISCOUNT.

Let's go over your shopping list 1 more time.

Transform 4:..... 319 USD (aka 389 CAD)
Springs: ............18 USD
Matrix RDS: .......36 USD
5 mags: ............40 USD
S&H: ...............45 USD
Duty: ...............75 CAD or 62 USD/ or 50CAD or 41 USD
Total:
About 520 USD or 634.21 CAD, not to mention brokerage fees. There is still a sales tax ontop of duties if applicable.

Compared to domestic shopping list:

Transform 4: .....389 CAD (AKA 319 USD)
Springs: .............24 CAD
Magazines: .........50 CAD
Matrix RDS: ........72 CAD (lazy, only found one store in Canada that sold them so prices vary)
S&H: .................25 CAD (Canada post, expedited) some retailers have free shipping so lookout for that
Total: ..............560 CAD (633 CAD after tax @13%)

So the difference is about 1 dollar, minus 1 midcap. If the midcap is so important to you, go ahead. Anticipate that duty is OVER 50 dollars because ICS is a Taiwan Manufacturer so it's going to charge you like crazy. I assume you do not know how duties work.

The 5 mags are free with the epic bonus from evike, so they are not applicable to the overall cost of the order (minus that 50) and second, my friend is purchasing 3/5 mags so I can remove a further 40 CAD from the total price.
It would have been roughly the same price but me getting much less (I paid 487 for the gun and 2 springs from mach1), but from evike it would have been 2-3 weeks, and the chance of getting a HUGE border cost which I do not want to make.
As I stated earlier, evike would be the better option for actual cost but the risks coming with it like border seizure, 2-3 week delivery time, and if something went wrong that would take months to RMA.

Just to clarify, I have ordered from the states, asia, and canada before and each of these has its own "value" to me. Asia usually takes 20-30 days, the US takes 14-21, and Canada takes under 4. Evike takes about a week to ship out, then 1-2 weeks for it to actually deliver. The shipping fees are absurd (I needed a WE g17 mag lip which was a couple dollars and it would have been 30$ to ship it, not even including duties so I said no right then and there), but this is a large purchase and with all the extras I am getting from it, and no "rush" it would have been a better option if I was getting everything. I just could not take the chance with duties and the border stuff, and like I said before RMA would probably be impossible.

[dmitril]

I've had good experience with evike, the key was to order for 5 people at the same time and self clear at cbsa. Evike was nice enough to only write the final cost after coupon and without shipping and cbsa had me write out all of the guns I got. Since a lot of the guns on evike do not specify country of manufacture you get away without duty and monstrous ups brokerage fees. Though after the experience I'd say do this only if you expect to save at least 100cad, visiting cbsa does take quite a bit of time.