Systema PTW

kullwarrior · January 22nd, 2008, 00:28

Exactly which type of cylinder is more suitable for a skirmish? Because I'm pretty sure the one the come with requires DOWNGRADE
RED Cylinder M150 = 492FPS
Gold Cylinder M130 = 426FPS
Blue Cylinder M110 = 361FPS
Black Cylinder M90 = 295FPS

I'm thinking downgrade to Blue Cylinder and also buy Black one for CQC

The Saint · January 22nd, 2008, 00:31

You don't really need a poll to answer that question... You really don't.

Blue for general outdoors, black for indoors.

Gold and up if your local games allow you to use your PTW as a sniper rifle?

Ronan · January 22nd, 2008, 00:32

Also your numbers are wrong.

Systema PTW M4A1 MAX 2008
0.20g Airsoft Elite
M90 chrono's at 325fps for me (CQB)
M110 chrono's at 390fps for me (OUTDOOR)
M150 chrono's at 545fps for me. (TARGET SHOOTING)

Capt. Tyco · January 22nd, 2008, 00:33

Gold is the maximum you should ever use. Using red against other people is just being cruel!

Ronan · January 22nd, 2008, 00:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt. Tyco

Gold is the maximum you should ever use. Using red against other people is just being cruel!

Gold is the correct one to use for semi only snipers. It chrono's around 450fps altho i can't say for sure as its the only one i haven't personally chronoed.

mcguyver · January 22nd, 2008, 00:39

EAR and Bravo will allow Blue cylinder as maximum. I've used gold at JOC and RAAT, and on my home fields. Reds are for plinking, or their new use will be the semi-only M16.

Your estimated numbers are about 10% low on M150, M110 and M90. My M130 is pretty close to estimate.

If your gun comes with the M150, buy the others if you need, but currently there's no CQB venue in Edmonton, so the M110 and M130 will get the most use.

Go meet with the Bravo guys. They have a few PTWs, are local to you and will fill you in on them. But they are an 18+ organization for playing, as is EAR.

leblanc74 · January 22nd, 2008, 00:44

in Vancouver, they allow 400 FPS so a modified gold or just plain blue for the outdoor and the black for the indoor....and the red for people you want to p.o. people

kullwarrior · January 22nd, 2008, 01:06

I have certified with Nation Lifeguard Service so Im worry about other's health issue more over game and was hoping Systema dont need upgrade but found it needs downgrade x.x
And also I thought the M system is simply means its in Meters, now Im all confused

mcguyver · January 22nd, 2008, 01:24

The "M" in the cylinder name is meant for "metres per second". However, springs are not a prescise science. There is some allowable deviation that manufacturers will allow. That's why some M150s for example will be slightly under 500 fps on the low end to near 550 fps on the high end. Some M130s are 415 on the low end to 460 on the high end. M110 can be 360 to 400, M90 can be 320-350.

I have 2 M90s, one is 330 and one is 350. Both my M150s are 515ish, my M110 is 395ish and my M130 is 430ish.

LeapingLizard · January 22nd, 2008, 02:07

Both my M150s are just under 500 with .25s. A couple M110s are in the next order before I can even game the PTWs. An M90 would be nice too, but I'm not made of money.

If you want to get as close to 400 as you can you could get a gold and modify it, but I'd just buy the blue for outdoors black for in, like you planned.

Fireboy · January 22nd, 2008, 10:14

BTW - There is an indoor field in Edmonton. Small but it works great at getting your trigger finger off...

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January 22nd, 2008, 00:28	#1
kullwarrior Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Edmonton, AB, Canada	Systema PTW Exactly which type of cylinder is more suitable for a skirmish? Because I'm pretty sure the one the come with requires DOWNGRADE RED Cylinder M150 = 492FPS Gold Cylinder M130 = 426FPS Blue Cylinder M110 = 361FPS Black Cylinder M90 = 295FPS I'm thinking downgrade to Blue Cylinder and also buy Black one for CQC

January 22nd, 2008, 00:31	#2
The Saint Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Quebec	You don't really need a poll to answer that question... You really don't. Blue for general outdoors, black for indoors. Gold and up if your local games allow you to use your PTW as a sniper rifle? __________________ "The Bird of Hermes is My Name, Eating My Wings to Make Me Tame."

January 22nd, 2008, 00:33	#4
Capt. Tyco Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Victoria, B.C.	Gold is the maximum you should ever use. Using red against other people is just being cruel! __________________ Eagles may soar, but WEASLES, don't get sucked into jet engines. 20 Bucks is 20 Bucks

January 22nd, 2008, 00:39	#6
mcguyver Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Northern Alberta	EAR and Bravo will allow Blue cylinder as maximum. I've used gold at JOC and RAAT, and on my home fields. Reds are for plinking, or their new use will be the semi-only M16. Your estimated numbers are about 10% low on M150, M110 and M90. My M130 is pretty close to estimate. If your gun comes with the M150, buy the others if you need, but currently there's no CQB venue in Edmonton, so the M110 and M130 will get the most use. Go meet with the Bravo guys. They have a few PTWs, are local to you and will fill you in on them. But they are an 18+ organization for playing, as is EAR. __________________ Age verifier Northern Alberta Democracy is two wolves and a sheep discussing what's for dinner. Freedom is the wolves limping away while the sheep reloads. Never confuse freedom with democracy. Last edited by mcguyver; January 22nd, 2008 at 00:45..

January 22nd, 2008, 00:44	#7
leblanc74 Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Coquitlam	in Vancouver, they allow 400 FPS so a modified gold or just plain blue for the outdoor and the black for the indoor....and the red for people you want to p.o. people __________________ My Collection: Seller/Buyer Feedback Last edited by leblanc74; January 22nd, 2008 at 01:01..

January 22nd, 2008, 01:06	#8
kullwarrior Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Edmonton, AB, Canada	I have certified with Nation Lifeguard Service so Im worry about other's health issue more over game and was hoping Systema dont need upgrade but found it needs downgrade x.x And also I thought the M system is simply means its in Meters, now Im all confused

January 22nd, 2008, 01:24	#9
mcguyver Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Northern Alberta	The "M" in the cylinder name is meant for "metres per second". However, springs are not a prescise science. There is some allowable deviation that manufacturers will allow. That's why some M150s for example will be slightly under 500 fps on the low end to near 550 fps on the high end. Some M130s are 415 on the low end to 460 on the high end. M110 can be 360 to 400, M90 can be 320-350. I have 2 M90s, one is 330 and one is 350. Both my M150s are 515ish, my M110 is 395ish and my M130 is 430ish. __________________ Age verifier Northern Alberta Democracy is two wolves and a sheep discussing what's for dinner. Freedom is the wolves limping away while the sheep reloads. Never confuse freedom with democracy.

January 22nd, 2008, 02:07	#10
LeapingLizard Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Winnipeg	Both my M150s are just under 500 with .25s. A couple M110s are in the next order before I can even game the PTWs. An M90 would be nice too, but I'm not made of money. If you want to get as close to 400 as you can you could get a gold and modify it, but I'd just buy the blue for outdoors black for in, like you planned.

January 22nd, 2008, 10:14	#11
Fireboy Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Alberta, Earth	BTW - There is an indoor field in Edmonton. Small but it works great at getting your trigger finger off...

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