TM M-14 FTK kits

[Swatt Six-Four]

just wondering which FTK kit is best suited to get a TM M14 up to 400-410 fps, with minimal wear on rifle. Please state which kit you like best and why. Would prefer only first hand experience with kits. Also if anyone has some tricks or tips to make the T selector not wear down so quickly.

Thanks

[The Saint]

Hm, only FTK for the TM14 I'm aware of is by Guarder. It comes with a SP120, which is 430ish with good airseal. Guarder also makes replacement semi selector lever.

[bruce]

Originally Posted by SwattMedic

Also if anyone has some tricks or tips to make the T selector not wear down so quickly.

Thanks

Based on what I've read over at Arnie's, some will argue that it's because of Guarder's finishing on the gear. It's not as smooth as it should be and therefore grinds down the selector faster than normal. I tend to agree and went with Prometheus gears and parts.

I'm waiting to see if Prometheus will bring out a FTK for the M14 for my other M14. If not, Guarder cylinder and the rest with Prometheus.

[Crash]

This is only my humble oppinion. But I had purchased Guarder(m120 spring) ftk kits for my tm m4 and ak47. They were both installed by a reputable gun tech.

I used both guns afterwards only to have them go down in 2 or 3 games. It seemed to be piston and gear probs in both guns. So I guess this is my caveate emptor on guarder internals. Personally I am going to stay away from guarder internals in the future.

Crash

[Tankdude]

I am of the same mind set as Crash on this one.

Go with systema if they make the part, else Prometheus.

[Colin_S]

While I didn't get a Guarder FTK, I essentially replaced everything in my M14 with Guarder components. The only things I have to complain about are the polycarbonate piston head and cylinder head.

I am running a Guarder SP110 (with a few coils cut off so it's shooting ~400 fps) and within two games, I cracked the piston head at the vent holes and the shards of plastic locked up my mechbox. This may be a problem with Guarder plastic piston heads in general as I cracked a couple more in the same spot with other guns shooting lower.

Next was the cylinder head, the rubber pad at the back of the cylinder head (the part that makes contact with the piston head) was not properly secured on mine and thus twisted slightly. Since the nozzle hole is offset and not in the middle (like with Ver 2/3 cylinder heads) the rubber pad blocked the hole which stopped my gun from firing.

To remedy this issues, I have since installed a Guarder aluminum piston head (the only other alternative I could get quickly) and gone back with the stock cylinder head. After doing replacing those two parts I have not had any problems with my M14 and it's been fielded about 6 times. The gun is firing nice and consistent now but those two parts are definitely things you should avoid.

[ringsted]

personally i would always go with systema or prometheus parts, unless they didnt make the specific part. i have had guarder gears break before, but never my prometheus or systema gear, they wear down but din break.

[LUTNIT]

Gah!
Its "FTK" not "FTK Kit"! Unless of course it really is a "Full Tune-up Kit Kit" Its like people who say "ATM Machine"
Sorry, pet peeve.

I've always heard from experienced people that there are always slight variations in different companies components. So if your going to be replacing many parts then try to use as many from the same manufacturer as you can.

Personally I swear by Prometheus and HurricanE.

Also remember that more upgrade parts = much higher chance of gun malfunction/failure. My CA G36 has a Prometheus bearing spring guide, M110 spring, SystemA 6.04 tightbore, and TM piston/piston head. Rest is stock CA parts and she shoots 390fps with .20's and is as reliable as Greylocks eating noobs for lunch.