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Ricochet · October 25th, 2014, 04:44

VFC has proven to be the better brand. There isn't a lot of VFC guns, if any, that are not well regarded as high quality. Also, your source is reputable.

lurkingknight · October 25th, 2014, 10:34

by the same token the vfc self shimming gears (if they are still in the gun) are also a gimmick, but they work to a certain extent, better than the g&g blowback, also the gearbox is standard, the g&g gearbox shell is not standard, and you need to order the special one if you need to replace it.

DrunkenTeddy · October 25th, 2014, 11:47

There's no comparison between that VFC and the G&g you were looking at. The VFC wins hands down. It's good value if there is nothing wrong with it.

GodsLt · October 25th, 2014, 17:28

I think I'll go for the VFC...the only downside to the gun is the fact that the owner painted it...I would really like to have it in it's original black color...

Any safe way to strip paint and restore the stock finish?

Ricochet · October 25th, 2014, 20:35

You can use paint stripper, but you'll want it really watered down, and keep it off of plastic parts. I'd dissasemble the gun slightly before beginning. If you use it too strong it can melt plastic and also take the finish of off the black metal.

GodsLt · October 26th, 2014, 22:36

Okay, so I think I'll pretty much go for the VFC, not only because of the external quality, but because the owner put a prometheus 6.03mm barrel, tenley high torque motor and r-hop in it. Now, my only real question is, if I use paint stripper, will the laser engravings still be present in the gun? I'm half hoping once I strip off the paint, that the trademarks will still be in presentable condition...

Additionally, due to the uprated motor, I need to find an 11.1V lipo battery. Would this one fit? https://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/...dProduct=44075

lurkingknight · October 27th, 2014, 01:53

no guarantees you will restore the factory finish. It might make it worse.

SuperHog · October 27th, 2014, 13:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by GodsLt

Okay, so I think I'll pretty much go for the VFC, not only because of the external quality, but because the owner put a prometheus 6.03mm barrel, tenley high torque motor and r-hop in it. Now, my only real question is, if I use paint stripper, will the laser engravings still be present in the gun? I'm half hoping once I strip off the paint, that the trademarks will still be in presentable condition...

Additionally, due to the uprated motor, I need to find an 11.1V lipo battery. Would this one fit? https://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/...dProduct=44075

Why don't you buy a new VFC and have the peace of mind. That VFC could be been tinker with heavily. You may not like some of the mods if any was done to it in the future.

Ricochet · October 27th, 2014, 13:40

Stripping paint off of an airsoft gun is always risky. Laser engravings won't be lost, but you may lose some of the contrast between them and the receiver. It's a gambit no matter how you slice it. Just remember, start with your stripper very watered down, and do not leave it on the parts for long. Have a way to rinse them off quickly.

waylander · October 27th, 2014, 13:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by GodsLt

Okay, so I think I'll pretty much go for the VFC, not only because of the external quality, but because the owner put a prometheus 6.03mm barrel, tenley high torque motor and r-hop in it. Now, my only real question is, if I use paint stripper, will the laser engravings still be present in the gun? I'm half hoping once I strip off the paint, that the trademarks will still be in presentable condition...

Additionally, due to the uprated motor, I need to find an 11.1V lipo battery. Would this one fit? https://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/...dProduct=44075

I don't think that will fit in the stock crane stock of the 416. I'm assuming it's the same stock as my M27 IAR and I'm pretty sure that won't fit. You don't NEED a 11.1v lipo regardless of the motor. It may shoot lower ROF without one but you don't need one to use it.

If you really want a 11.1v lipo then think of these.

https://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/...SOFT_Pack.html
https://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/...SOFT_Pack.html
https://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/...SOFT_Pack.html

Keep in mind a 11.1 will increase wear in the gearbox so if you don't need the ROF that the 11.1 gives then I'd stick to 9.6 or 7.4.

GodsLt · October 27th, 2014, 17:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperHog

Why don't you buy a new VFC and have the peace of mind. That VFC could be been tinker with heavily. You may not like some of the mods if any was done to it in the future.

The reason is, I'm getting the gun at a highly discounted price from a member of the forums that I personally know.

In terms of paint stripping, i'll try my best, and if anything goes wrong, i'll just paint it black. Lol

SuperHog · October 27th, 2014, 19:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by GodsLt

The reason is, I'm getting the gun at a highly discounted price from a member of the forums that I personally know.

In terms of paint stripping, i'll try my best, and if anything goes wrong, i'll just paint it black. Lol

If it was laser engraved, repainting will cover up the nice silver engraving and won't look factory any more.

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October 25th, 2014, 04:44	#46
Ricochet How much sand CAN you fit in your vagina!? Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: North Delta, BC (Greater Vancouver)	VFC has proven to be the better brand. There isn't a lot of VFC guns, if any, that are not well regarded as high quality. Also, your source is reputable. __________________ I have developed a new sport called Airhard. Pretty much the same as Airsoft, except you have to maintain an erection...

October 25th, 2014, 10:34	#47
lurkingknight "bb bukakke" KING! Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Ottawa	by the same token the vfc self shimming gears (if they are still in the gun) are also a gimmick, but they work to a certain extent, better than the g&g blowback, also the gearbox is standard, the g&g gearbox shell is not standard, and you need to order the special one if you need to replace it. __________________ I futz with V2s, V3s and V6s. I could be wrong... but probably, most likely not, as far as I know.

October 25th, 2014, 20:35	#50
Ricochet How much sand CAN you fit in your vagina!? Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: North Delta, BC (Greater Vancouver)	You can use paint stripper, but you'll want it really watered down, and keep it off of plastic parts. I'd dissasemble the gun slightly before beginning. If you use it too strong it can melt plastic and also take the finish of off the black metal. __________________ I have developed a new sport called Airhard. Pretty much the same as Airsoft, except you have to maintain an erection...

October 25th, 2014, 11:47	#48
DrunkenTeddy FatJ Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Langley, BC	There's no comparison between that VFC and the G&g you were looking at. The VFC wins hands down. It's good value if there is nothing wrong with it.

October 25th, 2014, 17:28	#49
GodsLt Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Downtown Vancouver	I think I'll go for the VFC...the only downside to the gun is the fact that the owner painted it...I would really like to have it in it's original black color... Any safe way to strip paint and restore the stock finish?

October 26th, 2014, 22:36	#51
GodsLt Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Downtown Vancouver	Okay, so I think I'll pretty much go for the VFC, not only because of the external quality, but because the owner put a prometheus 6.03mm barrel, tenley high torque motor and r-hop in it. Now, my only real question is, if I use paint stripper, will the laser engravings still be present in the gun? I'm half hoping once I strip off the paint, that the trademarks will still be in presentable condition... Additionally, due to the uprated motor, I need to find an 11.1V lipo battery. Would this one fit? https://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/...dProduct=44075

October 27th, 2014, 01:53	#52
lurkingknight "bb bukakke" KING! Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Ottawa	no guarantees you will restore the factory finish. It might make it worse. __________________ I futz with V2s, V3s and V6s. I could be wrong... but probably, most likely not, as far as I know.

October 27th, 2014, 13:40	#54
Ricochet How much sand CAN you fit in your vagina!? Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: North Delta, BC (Greater Vancouver)	Stripping paint off of an airsoft gun is always risky. Laser engravings won't be lost, but you may lose some of the contrast between them and the receiver. It's a gambit no matter how you slice it. Just remember, start with your stripper very watered down, and do not leave it on the parts for long. Have a way to rinse them off quickly. __________________ I have developed a new sport called Airhard. Pretty much the same as Airsoft, except you have to maintain an erection...

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