FAMAS : cybergun or tokyo marui?

[k4i53r]

Hello people!

i am looking to get a famas specifically (i m french thats why), and I wonder which brand to choose?

cybergun price is cheap, but I got no feedback on it.

marui is expensive, the inner parts known to be prehistoric, but the brand is king.

help me please!!!!

KAISER

[Strelok]

TM is great if you don't plan on doing anything to it internally.

Cybergun is a better upgrade platform, since it uses a hybrid of the v1 and v2/v3 gearboxes, which allow for better upgrade flexibility.

[J-Man19]

buy TM and buy once.

[lurkingknight]

lol, a v1 gearbox, with a non standard motor and motor cage, if you want to do anything to it you have to know how to fabricate or be very fancy with a dremel.

this is a case that the original TM is NOT a good choice., the cybergun offers far more compatibility when the gearbox or motor fails. Finding replacements for the original TM can be super hard.

[jordan7831]

There is a pretty good review of the cybergun famas on here already. Like others said, the parts are more readily avaiable for the cybergun since it can use V2 gearbox innards. Anyways, a TM would be hard to source anyways, and would cost way more than its really worth. Also, with the TM good luck finding upgrade parts unless you have access to a machine shop that can help you make replacements should they break.

I would personally go with the cybergun and have the comfort that you can replace parts if needed. Besides, isnt the TM super creaky and flimsy anyways?

Edit: is the Cyma famas and the cybergun famas the same thing?
Because heres the link to the review thats on here.
http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthr...ighlight=famas

[k4i53r]

Thanks all! This is what I feared about tokyo marui :-(

cybergun it is....when I get paid!

[JLiang]

As the actual author of that FAMAS review I'd like to just insert a few points regarding both rifles.

In my honest opinion, Cybergun > TM in this ONE case, simply because TM FAMAS' are so outdated.

Keep in mind that the TM FAMAS was the first AEG Tokyo Marui ever released. Thus, lots of proprietary parts and overengineering are present; replacement parts are hard to find, and in the 1990s they were all using small ferrous motors, like the EG560 series. The EG560 Motor, found in most TM FAMAS', has no torque, being meant for speed, but still grants neither. Internal parts are mostly of inferior plastics, especially for today's standards. Granted, it was built way back when, and it was a stroke of genius that revolutionized the Airsoft world, but when early Gen TM FAMAS' don't even have hopup, as a beginner, I'd stay away.

Speaking of plastics, the TM FAMAS is ABS plastic, made to 1990's glory. Creaks are pretty much unavoidable, which can be fixed, but it's still glossy and cheap-feeling. The only real reason I would invest in getting a TM FAMAS would be its huge ROF at low FPS. It's a great indoor rifle, considering you (excuse me) DO NOT FUCK with it. Leave EVERYTHING as it is stock, slap in an 8.4v, and enjoy your 1700 RPM (or was it 1100? I forgets) of 240 FPS goodness.


Cybergun is a really weird mixed bag. Cybergun Gens 1-3 were licenced JP Products; the Cybergun Gen2 is a JP Gen3. Flee ALL Cybergun early generations like the plague. Nylon bushings, sub-par construction, huge cheapouts in pretty much every aspect of the rifle's construction. A good way to find a JP Gen1 is that they actually included a pot metal handguard.

Yeah.

Ew.

No.

The Cybergun Gen4 (mine) is either a JP Gen4 or a CYMA. The CYMA FAMAS has metal bushings, TM-spec internals, and a slightly improved hop. The revised V1N gearbox takes Version 2, 3, and 7 parts, and a standard EG1000 motor. HOWEVER the stock motor is 1-2mm shorter than a standard short-type, so be advised some motors may not fit.

Externally, the Cybergun (CYMA) FAMAS is a very nice, textured matte plastic. It's not NF, but not ABS either. It's a pretty decent in-between, and can hold up to most NORMAL batterings. Do NOT drop this from a second-floor window (long story) or it WILL break. In my two years of owning my baby, I've only had 2 things snap: two flanges, and that was due to bad design of the handle-barrel attachment method, and my being extremely careless.

On that note, however, this is NOT a high-end rifle. If you pull a JLiang and slam your barrel into a wooden barrier when trying to raise your rifle, the barrel will actually SEPARATE from the main receiver, snapping two aforementioned flanges, and causing grief to your wire routing attachments. The front barrel-receiver-handguard mount plate now is superglued into the body.

Long story short, both FAMAS' are useful for different purposes. For a general purpose, entry- to intermediate-level rifle, the CYMA takes the cake; just be sure it's the latest version of Cybergun FAMAS. If you can find a nice TM, sure, but it would be for the more advanced player playing in a primarily fast-paced, short-engagement, high-visibility role.

If you get either FAMAS, be nice to it, and it will be nice to you. Don't make my mistake and snap plastics.

[venture]

The TM Super Version is the way to go. The F1 version, well I would just get the cybergun version.

[k4i53r]

Well thank you guys so much, this was well explained. I made my mind for a cybergun after consulting your reviews, plus it is easier to find one! Hope it is in the last gens, i ll post it when i ll receive it.

[Heerven]

I just bought a 9,6V battery for my Famas Cybergun. It's crazy how it improves the performance in term of response trigger and ROF.
I should have did it 2 years ago when I bought it.

[Wilkie]

If I were to own a TM Famas it would be a wall hanger, simply because it was the first airsoft gun. That's pretty neat IMO

[JLiang]

Originally Posted by Heerven

I just bought a 9,6V battery for my Famas Cybergun. It's crazy how it improves the performance in term of response trigger and ROF.
I should have did it 2 years ago when I bought it.

Ohmygoodness yes. I got a 9.6v for $10 at a swap meet, slapped it in, and my jaw just dropped. You'd think 1.2v and a few mAh of output wouldn't make much difference, but I swear the ROF went up by a good 300 hundred RPM.

Originally Posted by Wilkie

If I were to own a TM Famas it would be a wall hanger, simply because it was the first AEG. That's pretty neat IMO

Fixed it for you ;D

There were lots of Airsoft Rifles before TM came out with their AEG Gearbox design; they were just 'classic rifles', using various sorts of HPA systems (be it pumping the handguard full of air with a hand pump, carrying massive tanks of air on your back, etc.) and other unique ways of propelling a BB a set distance.
TM only revolutionized the AS World way back when; they didn't invent it.

[Wilkie]

Oh lol right you are! I miss spoke

[JLiang]

Haha, it happens. I don't mean to sound too snobby XD

[JLiang]

Originally Posted by Asher

It depends on what you want to get. A good quality one or a cheap one.

I think 'inexpensive' is a more proper way to describe the Cybergun. It's superior to the TM in a lot of aspects.

The FAMAS and the AUG are two of TM's that just lack the quality found in their other models. It's beyond me why, but just what I've noticed.

Also, please read what others have commented. It sounds like you came in, read the OP's question, and stated your own opinion (there are no facts in your post). We've answered the question thoroughly above, and although your input is welcome, it's somewhat misleading.