APS Tactical AK47

MrAirsoft194 · September 10th, 2013, 21:11

Ok thanks Styrak for the insulting post, but i was only seeing for a recent review and playing the devils avocate to really see if they did improved or not really. Even so i already told you that i know that they are crap. Either then that in the end i got what i was looking and Thanks.

Styrak · September 10th, 2013, 21:15

Don't know how my post was insulting, but OK.

MrAirsoft194 · September 10th, 2013, 21:43

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Originally Posted by Styrak

Don't know how my post was insulting, but OK.

Well I saw it as if you were calling me an idiot by saying ( since you didn't get it the first time).

Airmax · September 11th, 2013, 03:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Styrak

APS is generally pretty poor quality. People know APS as a certain abbreviation...

My fav would be "Absolute Pieces of Shit"

I have worked on a few of the APS AK rifles and found them to be very poorly built both externally and internally. Best save your money and purchase another brand of AK. There was also a comment from PocoMilitary's store here in Langley that had sold them a few years ago when they first came out and ALL of them came back with in one week for repairs or refunds.

HKGhost · September 11th, 2013, 13:45

It seems like MrAirsoft194 is sold on APS's "new" guns, so buy it and let us know how it is.

Strelok · September 11th, 2013, 13:51

Having seen both old and new.

No.

Please, no. Don't tell yourself "there is always an exception"

No.

Danke · September 11th, 2013, 13:51

You know as soon as someone puts up a thread like this and invests this much emotion into something they say they haven't bought yet I wonder how many times it's turned out there was a purchase made prior to the fact checking.

Devil's Advocate; ha ha.

MrAirsoft194 · September 11th, 2013, 17:04

Ok I am not sold or buying it at all. I am really buying a LCT now. I was only looking for a body to build on and then i saw the APS. It seemed to be a cheapskate almost all the features i wanted it to have, but for the price it had to be to good to be true. So i did a bit of reaserch on it and found out that they are are shit, but some said there newer design is better. So i wanted to ask you guys to clear things out, if its true or not. Not only did i get the answer to what i was looking, but got hated for asking so. Sorry if i didn't know.

Strelok · September 11th, 2013, 17:38

You didn't get hated for just asking.

When you start making excuses as to justify the purchase (After having many people telling you to do otherwise) You'll end up pissing off a few people.

Its a common thing for people to ask about (Insert cheap POS gun here), ask whether they should buy it or not. And despite being told not to, they buy it anyway and come back to bitch about it not working.

Its annoying as hell.

MrAirsoft194 · September 11th, 2013, 23:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strelok

You didn't get hated for just asking.

When you start making excuses as to justify the purchase (After having many people telling you to do otherwise) You'll end up pissing off a few people.

Its a common thing for people to ask about (Insert cheap POS gun here), ask whether they should buy it or not. And despite being told not to, they buy it anyway and come back to bitch about it not working.

Its annoying as hell.

i could understand what you mean, but i have to say its not the warmest welcome.

ccyg8774 · September 12th, 2013, 00:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cliffradical

the cursed wiring which likes to develop ghosts for no goddamn reason.

Wow that sounds exciting... Who doesn't want busting some ghosts developed from airsoft guns. Would you mind to tell the full story about the wires? Thanks.

Cliffradical · September 12th, 2013, 19:09

Every time staff pulled the dust covers off we'd get slimed.

Seriously though, the type of wire being used was of a poor quality and/ or a poor choice for the application as it was too rigid and brittle generally, plus the shielding was terrible (consistency closer to that of wax than rubber or plastic shielding).
Combine these factors with generally poor soldering and high-resistance contacts (again, poorly selected materials for the application), what you get is an electrical system full of existing and potential flaws that only worsen the more that the system is handled.

You end up with shorts, spikes, and breaks in the line which aren't immediately apparent and aren't even findable through visual inspection. Thus you end up chasing the whole line with a multimeter and having things work fine on the bench and then poop out in the body and vice-versa, ergo chasing 'ghosts' or 'ghosting'.

Many of the guns we worked on (mostly warranty, eugh) did this, and eventually after wasting so many man hours trying to save and repair these systems, the employer decided that the best course of action was to gut APS electrical systems and replace entirely whenever the wiring was in question, scrap it, and go through the leftovers during downtime to see if any of it could be reclaimed for rentals.

ccyg8774 · September 13th, 2013, 02:23

Thanks for the story... I will stop complaining about my PVC wires not being silicone wires from now on...

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September 10th, 2013, 21:15	#17
Styrak Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Saskatoon, SK	Don't know how my post was insulting, but OK. __________________ Airsoft Sales and Repair/Upgrade Services

September 11th, 2013, 13:45	#20
HKGhost Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Mississauga, ON	It seems like MrAirsoft194 is sold on APS's "new" guns, so buy it and let us know how it is. __________________ Please email me as I'm not on ASC too often. Custom Build \| Upgrades \| Repairs \| Maintenance Contact: ghostgunwork@gmail.com / Private Message

September 11th, 2013, 13:51	#22
Danke Prancercise Guru Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Danger Zone	You know as soon as someone puts up a thread like this and invests this much emotion into something they say they haven't bought yet I wonder how many times it's turned out there was a purchase made prior to the fact checking. Devil's Advocate; ha ha. __________________ Airsoft, where nothing is hurt but feelings.

September 10th, 2013, 21:11	#16
MrAirsoft194 Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2012	Ok thanks Styrak for the insulting post, but i was only seeing for a recent review and playing the devils avocate to really see if they did improved or not really. Even so i already told you that i know that they are crap. Either then that in the end i got what i was looking and Thanks.

September 11th, 2013, 13:51	#21
Strelok Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Brandon Manitoba	Having seen both old and new. No. Please, no. Don't tell yourself "there is always an exception" No.

September 11th, 2013, 17:04	#23
MrAirsoft194 Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2012	Ok I am not sold or buying it at all. I am really buying a LCT now. I was only looking for a body to build on and then i saw the APS. It seemed to be a cheapskate almost all the features i wanted it to have, but for the price it had to be to good to be true. So i did a bit of reaserch on it and found out that they are are shit, but some said there newer design is better. So i wanted to ask you guys to clear things out, if its true or not. Not only did i get the answer to what i was looking, but got hated for asking so. Sorry if i didn't know.

September 11th, 2013, 17:38	#24
Strelok Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Brandon Manitoba	You didn't get hated for just asking. When you start making excuses as to justify the purchase (After having many people telling you to do otherwise) You'll end up pissing off a few people. Its a common thing for people to ask about (Insert cheap POS gun here), ask whether they should buy it or not. And despite being told not to, they buy it anyway and come back to bitch about it not working. Its annoying as hell.

September 12th, 2013, 19:09	#27
Cliffradical butthurt for not having a user title Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Winnipeg	Every time staff pulled the dust covers off we'd get slimed. Seriously though, the type of wire being used was of a poor quality and/ or a poor choice for the application as it was too rigid and brittle generally, plus the shielding was terrible (consistency closer to that of wax than rubber or plastic shielding). Combine these factors with generally poor soldering and high-resistance contacts (again, poorly selected materials for the application), what you get is an electrical system full of existing and potential flaws that only worsen the more that the system is handled. You end up with shorts, spikes, and breaks in the line which aren't immediately apparent and aren't even findable through visual inspection. Thus you end up chasing the whole line with a multimeter and having things work fine on the bench and then poop out in the body and vice-versa, ergo chasing 'ghosts' or 'ghosting'. Many of the guns we worked on (mostly warranty, eugh) did this, and eventually after wasting so many man hours trying to save and repair these systems, the employer decided that the best course of action was to gut APS electrical systems and replace entirely whenever the wiring was in question, scrap it, and go through the leftovers during downtime to see if any of it could be reclaimed for rentals.

September 13th, 2013, 02:23	#28
ccyg8774 Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Brampton, ON	Thanks for the story... I will stop complaining about my PVC wires not being silicone wires from now on... __________________

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