G&G P90 or TM P90? RDS models

[daishi]

Hey all,

I'm trying to decide between a TM P90 and a G&G P90 RDS, not Tri rail. They both seem like good guns, with the TM being a hell of alot more expensive.

What im looking for is which on has the better built in RDS, ease of changing fps (the g&g has a quick change on the nylon fiber model) and other things like that. Is the TM really worth getting over the g&g with such a jump in cost?

Id like to find out some pros and cons, as I have been unable to find a G&G vrs TM p90 comparison.


P.S If you area fanboy of TM or G&G don't just post "GET TM ITS DA BEST!" or along those lines. I'm looking for evidence. Also if anyone could pm me some links to Canada retailers that have them (in stock or otherwise) please shoot me a pm!

[Kos-Mos]

Got quite a few TMs in the last years.

I would go with the G&G (better looks, and better feel).

[PrIeSt]

This thread topi has been done to death. Try a search?

[daishi]

Theres lot of talk about the g&g and the TM. But I have never seen anyone actually compare the two of them together in any detail. Im am looking to get the pros and cons on the both of them so I can fiure out which one to drop money on.

[kylem_8]

so... why not just look at a review of the G&G, then look at a review of the TM? Then you can make your own judgement call...

[daishi]

Because the reviews don't COMPARE the two together. I have stated that I have looked at reviews and they gush with ermagherd this is gudz gun. Buy it.

I want to get a comparison by someone who has owned or handled these items.

Kos-Mos is the only person who has provided anything useful and on topic, rather then the typical "not your personal army" type forum posts.

[Kos-Mos]

Really, they are both great.

the G&G has a metal upper, so that's a plus.
the material used looks better, so that's also a plus.
I have no FIRST HAND experience with the G&G, but I know what the let downs of the TM are, and they all seem to be covered. I have a friend that got the G&G and I am really tempted to get one too.

[PrIeSt]

My tm has a metal upper... It's rds.

[Kos-Mos]

Originally Posted by PrIeSt

My tm has a metal upper... It's rds.

Your TM has the G&P metal upper or was swaped with somthing else.

TMs do no have metal receivers.

[PrIeSt]

No. It's a stock tm. But it is 5 years old. So maybe they changed them

[Short Round]

Originally Posted by PrIeSt

No. It's a stock tm. But it is 5 years old. So maybe they changed them

Marui has changed since I started playing in regards to their production of P90s ie. the RDS on the newer models are a lot better then the original RDS from earlier productions. During this time TM most likely made the switch from Metal to Plastic. Easiest way to tell though is if there are Marui markings on the receiver. If there are FN then it is aftermarket. However I believe takagari seeing that he got his P90 long before I got into this chaos.

Me personally, if your going to put money into upgrading (internal and external) a P90 get the TM. All aftermarket parts are made specifically for their designs, yes the G&G will take all those parts as well but nothing beats the original and its reliability.

If you don't plan on any internals upgrades though, then get the G&G. All the reviews I have seen is that it is a solid gun stock, most you would need to do to it is switch it to deans, maybe a new motor if the ROF doesn't suit you taste but that is about it (all personal preference really).

[Kos-Mos]

Originally Posted by PrIeSt

No. It's a stock tm. But it is 5 years old. So maybe they changed them

No, it's an aftermarket G&P receiver.

http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwol...l_Receiver.htm

Back in 2005 it was already a rare piece.

TM NEVER had metal receivers because of Japan laws. Then cannot make them metal. I think this changed/they found a loop hole in the last years, but it only applies to newer models.

So either you got "ripped off" (really, the receiver alone was worth more than the whole gun back when I started), or you are full of shit.

You do know that all P90 brands are cross-compatible, so it's easy for anyone to swap receivers...

Originally Posted by Najohn

If you don't plan on any internals upgrades though, then get the G&G. All the reviews I have seen is that it is a solid gun stock, most you would need to do to it is switch it to deans, maybe a new motor if the ROF doesn't suit you taste but that is about it (all personal preference really).

No sense in your comment...

If I want to upgrade the shit out of something, I will choose the best quality for the parts I don't change.
As soon as you swap a single part in a TM, you throw "reliable" out the window...

[Short Round]

Originally Posted by Kos-Mos

No sense in your comment...

If I want to upgrade the shit out of something, I will choose the best quality for the parts I don't change.
As soon as you swap a single part in a TM, you throw "reliable" out the window...

How doesn't it make sense. If your going to keep it stock then go G&G. If your going to upgrade the internals then go TM. Plan and simple.

Both work well stock, however TMs are the general base platform for most upgraded P90s.

You throw reliability out the window as soon as you open up the gearbox. If you leave it untouched till something breaks (if it does) then you will almost every time never run into a problem (unless you overwork the gun ie. use 11.1V lips, no trigger discipline, etc.)

If it works perfectly fine don't change it. If you want to make changes you only make the chances of a malfunction higher. That has been the case for every single player I have read, heard, seen or known.

[Kos-Mos]

That is exactly my point.

TM's externals are far from great.
However the internals (the parts most people upgrade) are very nice when stock.

G&G's P90 looks better, but the insides are sometimes lacking. The mechbox shell, unless it's tweaked, is also better on the G&G with the adjustable pre-load, making it easy to tweak FPS for various fields.