M249 TRacer Box Mag

Shogun-G · September 3rd, 2011, 16:01

Yeah that's not a worry - 30 BB's is really nothing through a SAW once she starts chugging. I was thinking of making a triangular piece to attach to the side of the boxmag inside (maybe even out of popsicle sticks to keep it hollow) to allow the flashlight to point right at the top of the feeding tube where the BB's come out. so hopefully that way there would be fewer that need to be shot before the tracers start.

I was also looking at not having all of the BB's as tracers so it is not a solid stream of tracers flying at someone. That way may flag my position less but also throw them off a bit too.

Pinard · September 3rd, 2011, 16:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by coachster

Not invisible to NVD users.

I don't know about your region but here their is not so much of NVG users

ThunderCactus · September 3rd, 2011, 18:39

Kind of off topic, but BB bastard had black BBs for the first claybank. I found if you take 4 bags of black and mix in one bag of white, it makes a REALLY awesome daytime tracer mix for LMGs lol

PrIeSt · September 28th, 2011, 17:53

I have a 249 here that we will be putting a hop up tracer unit in.

This is the easiest and means the first bb will glow along with all others.

Uv is definetly better

And I dont know about wiring it off the trigger. I guess... But a LED uses so little voltage you would never notice it.

Shogun-G · September 28th, 2011, 18:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by takagari

I have a 249 here that we will be putting a hop up tracer unit in.

This is the easiest and means the first bb will glow along with all others.

Uv is definetly better

And I dont know about wiring it off the trigger. I guess... But a LED uses so little voltage you would never notice it.

Cool man. I don't suppose you would mind posting a link of where to buy that hop up tracer unit?

ThunderCactus · September 29th, 2011, 04:15

Thought those were only available as M4 hop chambers?
Or did you mean you're modifying the one you got?

Marc if you want it done, I can mod it up for you or any of your guys

PrIeSt · November 7th, 2011, 12:29

Little slow on the response. Sorry

I meant build it custom. Heh.

Google for hop up tracer unit DIY. I'd post the link but am on my iPhone.

PrIeSt · November 9th, 2011, 12:49

One more update to this. For the hell of it I wires a gun to run the hopup off the trigger. And it works okay in full but on semi it may as well not be there. I don't think the power is there long enough.
A supressor uses more along the lines of a camera flash.

Oceanicus · November 15th, 2011, 11:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dynamo

you will get better charging of the tracer BBs by using UV leds. i have two 5mm 3000cmd UV LEDs mounted 6mm below my hopup.

so for the best tracer results there are a couple of things that need to be met.

#1 match the LEDs to the tracers. make sure that the output wavelength of LEDs being used is as close as possible to the ideal wavelength that the BBs can absorb.

Hi, if I understand well what is written above, you use UV LEDs with green / blue LEDs. If I want to use Red BBs, I will choose Infra-Red (not visible without equipment)/ Red LEDs. If I remember well my optic knowledges, UV can transfers very well the power in lumens. But IR or Red are not so power transfer efficient. Right?

PrIeSt · November 15th, 2011, 11:59

No. That's not the way it works. Use uv lights regardless. 3000mcd. Don't use ir

ThunderCactus · November 15th, 2011, 15:55

I did a close up test once on a bag of tracers, UV worked fantastic, IR didn't charge them for crap.

Oceanicus · November 15th, 2011, 16:21

Thanks, I will use UV at 3000mcd. So matching up the wavelenghts is no use? Someone has a reason for this?

PrIeSt · November 15th, 2011, 20:17

Oh matching would work. Assuming your certain of voltage and have a balancer. But you'd never notice the difference

Dynamo · November 17th, 2011, 04:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oceanicus

Hi, if I understand well what is written above, you use UV LEDs with green / blue LEDs. If I want to use Red BBs, I will choose Infra-Red (not visible without equipment)/ Red LEDs. If I remember well my optic knowledges, UV can transfers very well the power in lumens. But IR or Red are not so power transfer efficient. Right?

the color of the BBs has little to do with the wavelength of light they can absorb. the material reacts best with higher wavelengths.

infra red - visible - Ultra Violet
long(low) - mid - short(high)

thats why blue works better than white and UV works better than both, and a red high power laser does shit all.
the mcd value is how bright they are. the higer the mcd, the brighter the LEDs

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September 28th, 2011, 17:53	#19
PrIeSt takagari Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Anola(ish) MB	I have a 249 here that we will be putting a hop up tracer unit in. This is the easiest and means the first bb will glow along with all others. Uv is definetly better And I dont know about wiring it off the trigger. I guess... But a LED uses so little voltage you would never notice it. __________________ Eddie Creek, MB Airsoft Field, Valken Dealer, Local Age Verification [COLOR="DarkOrange"][B]

November 7th, 2011, 12:29	#22
PrIeSt takagari Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Anola(ish) MB	Little slow on the response. Sorry I meant build it custom. Heh. Google for hop up tracer unit DIY. I'd post the link but am on my iPhone. __________________ Eddie Creek, MB Airsoft Field, Valken Dealer, Local Age Verification [COLOR="DarkOrange"][B]

November 9th, 2011, 12:49	#23
PrIeSt takagari Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Anola(ish) MB	One more update to this. For the hell of it I wires a gun to run the hopup off the trigger. And it works okay in full but on semi it may as well not be there. I don't think the power is there long enough. A supressor uses more along the lines of a camera flash. __________________ Eddie Creek, MB Airsoft Field, Valken Dealer, Local Age Verification [COLOR="DarkOrange"][B]

September 3rd, 2011, 16:01	#16
Shogun-G Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2004	Yeah that's not a worry - 30 BB's is really nothing through a SAW once she starts chugging. I was thinking of making a triangular piece to attach to the side of the boxmag inside (maybe even out of popsicle sticks to keep it hollow) to allow the flashlight to point right at the top of the feeding tube where the BB's come out. so hopefully that way there would be fewer that need to be shot before the tracers start. I was also looking at not having all of the BB's as tracers so it is not a solid stream of tracers flying at someone. That way may flag my position less but also throw them off a bit too.

September 3rd, 2011, 18:39	#18
ThunderCactus Not Eye Safe, Pretty Boy Maximus on the field take his picture! Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2007	Kind of off topic, but BB bastard had black BBs for the first claybank. I found if you take 4 bags of black and mix in one bag of white, it makes a REALLY awesome daytime tracer mix for LMGs lol

September 29th, 2011, 04:15	#21
ThunderCactus Not Eye Safe, Pretty Boy Maximus on the field take his picture! Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2007	Thought those were only available as M4 hop chambers? Or did you mean you're modifying the one you got? Marc if you want it done, I can mod it up for you or any of your guys

November 15th, 2011, 11:59	#25
PrIeSt takagari Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Anola(ish) MB	No. That's not the way it works. Use uv lights regardless. 3000mcd. Don't use ir __________________ Eddie Creek, MB Airsoft Field, Valken Dealer, Local Age Verification [COLOR="DarkOrange"][B]

November 15th, 2011, 15:55	#26
ThunderCactus Not Eye Safe, Pretty Boy Maximus on the field take his picture! Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2007	I did a close up test once on a bag of tracers, UV worked fantastic, IR didn't charge them for crap.

November 15th, 2011, 16:21	#27
Oceanicus Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Val-Belair, Quebec	Thanks, I will use UV at 3000mcd. So matching up the wavelenghts is no use? Someone has a reason for this?

November 15th, 2011, 20:17	#28
PrIeSt takagari Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Anola(ish) MB	Oh matching would work. Assuming your certain of voltage and have a balancer. But you'd never notice the difference __________________ Eddie Creek, MB Airsoft Field, Valken Dealer, Local Age Verification [COLOR="DarkOrange"][B]

M249 TRacer Box Mag

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