Ksc m4 gbb

Gunny_McSmith · November 1st, 2010, 23:54

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Originally Posted by Conker

Like, like... More competitors in the market. Just in time as I'm shopping to buy one for next season, so hopefully there will be enough reviews by the time I'm buying it.

I have relatively high hope in this one because of the great efficiency of the pistol System7, even in sub-zero temperatures... I sure hope they lower the price of their mags though. I'd be buying at least 8, maybe up to ten (to always have backup ones in case of a leak problem).

Well IMO system 7 performs well on pistols and SMGs, because the bolt/slide are light, if you weight a stock KSC USP slide, it weighs nothing...lol, and if you open it up, you'll see that they took weigh off everything they could in it....

That's why the recoil on stock KSC guns arent really noticeable...And by adding upgraded heavier parts to improve the felt-recoil = you'll start to notice the cooldown...

Thats why I'm not really sure about this gun, since a m4 platform = it has to cycle a heavier bolt + buffer.... which could result in some cooldown.... but I'm sure it wont be as much as a WA platform....lol

Thenooblord · November 1st, 2010, 23:58

I thought one of the claims of the system 7 was "realistic heavy recoil" or is that just something they put in the sales blurb?

Gunny_McSmith · November 1st, 2010, 23:59

no... lol, system7 recoil is nothing...lol

juicy · November 2nd, 2010, 01:19

They do have a great seal between piston head/loading nozzles though, don't they? lol.

You could probably modify it to be hard kick if you wanted to, though.

RacingManiac · November 2nd, 2010, 01:27

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Originally Posted by Gunny_McSmith

Well IMO system 7 performs well on pistols and SMGs, because the bolt/slide are light, if you weight a stock KSC USP slide, it weighs nothing...lol, and if you open it up, you'll see that they took weigh off everything they could in it....

Same thoughts here, though most of my KSC pistols were metal slide guns, so they kick pretty good. Comparably I'd say they are maybe a tad better than TM gun, pistol wise. Though I haven't tried one of the newer TM like the 5-7, which has enlarged cylinder to improve that aspect...

The MP7 has very little kick, but comparably its bolt is tiny, so is the Mac11.

There are already vid of the M4 shooting in Japan that shows there are considerably slow down on full auto. No obvious gas spewing, but if they are using the lower pressure 134a to start with that cool-down-to-liquify effect won't be noticeable since the pressure drop is not as extreme. The heavier bolt will do the same thing as everything else in GBBR world I think. If you want hard kick, you are going to pay in efficiency...

Limiting it to 30 round is smart move on their part though....

cjboi · November 6th, 2010, 15:29

I talked to johnny from RA TECH and he told me the KSC M4 GBB is meant for duster gas as its made in japan. KSC might also release an M4 Taiwan Version, therefore it will shoot as strong as the KWA version. He said the recoil in the KSC M4 is strong due to weight of the bolt. He already made a review on youtube on KSC M4 GBB

Sim123456 · November 6th, 2010, 15:59

A review with green gas! ^^

L473ncy · November 6th, 2010, 16:22

I'm with Kid here, if Real Sword made a GBBR Type 56 I wouldn't mind dropping $800 to get my hands on one.

It's just a matter of time (I hope) before they jump on the GBBR bandwagon and release a Type 56 GBBR. Just thinking about an RS Type56 makes me hard.

cjboi · November 6th, 2010, 18:46

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Originally Posted by Sim123456

A review with green gas! ^^

He told me, he's not sure how long the internals would last for green gas, but its definitely meant for duster gas. Its just a matter of time. Just like how other KSC japan guns, they eventually break with green gas.

kullwarrior · November 7th, 2010, 01:38

I'm gonna stick my neck out and say...
The nozzle is going to fail (See KSC Mp7 Japan version)
The boltcarrier is going to fail long term (Mine KSC MP7 Taiwan got chip at the allen screw spot after 15k+ Still works fine though)
The bolt catch is probably going to fail (such a heavy carrier, and all non-steel bolt carrier failed in the end... G&P, WE,WA etc)

Though I'm still really interested in the KSC M4. Would be looking forward to the comparision against KJW which IMHO seems to be the only M4 GBBR worthy of skirmish out of box unless you count in Sun Project ones.

Sim123456 · November 7th, 2010, 08:29

Anyway, it's not like we don't have 10's of other brands choice for an armalite!

kullwarrior · November 7th, 2010, 10:28

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Originally Posted by Sim123456

Anyway, it's not like we don't have 10's of other brands choice for an armalite!

WA
G&P
AGM & Other china clones
King Arms
VFC/ Socom Gears
Inokatsu
Daytonagun/ Sun Project
KJW
WE

Close to 10 but not 10...If you count in by design...
Magna
VFC
External Air
Taniokoba..
WE

nevertheless, there are alot of choices.

juicy · November 7th, 2010, 22:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by kullwarrior

WA
G&P
AGM & Other china clones
King Arms
VFC/ Socom Gears
Inokatsu
Daytonagun/ Sun Project
KJW
WE

Close to 10 but not 10...If you count in by design...
Magna
VFC
External Air
Taniokoba..
WE

nevertheless, there are alot of choices.

VFC and Magna are different? Oh man, where have I been...

RacingManiac · November 7th, 2010, 23:19

VFC is very close, but not compatible...

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November 1st, 2010, 23:59	#18
Gunny_McSmith a.k.a. Palucol Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: MTL	no... lol, system7 recoil is nothing...lol __________________

November 6th, 2010, 15:29	#21
cjboi Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: manitoba	I talked to johnny from RA TECH and he told me the KSC M4 GBB is meant for duster gas as its made in japan. KSC might also release an M4 Taiwan Version, therefore it will shoot as strong as the KWA version. He said the recoil in the KSC M4 is strong due to weight of the bolt. He already made a review on youtube on KSC M4 GBB __________________ how can you help someone else if they're not willing to help themselves.

November 6th, 2010, 16:22	#23
L473ncy Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: 11-30-24-1W5	I'm with Kid here, if Real Sword made a GBBR Type 56 I wouldn't mind dropping $800 to get my hands on one. It's just a matter of time (I hope) before they jump on the GBBR bandwagon and release a Type 56 GBBR. Just thinking about an RS Type56 makes me hard. __________________ ಠ_ಠLess QQ more Pew Pew READY TO >> RACE

November 2nd, 2010, 01:19	#19
juicy Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Richmond, BC	They do have a great seal between piston head/loading nozzles though, don't they? lol. You could probably modify it to be hard kick if you wanted to, though.

November 6th, 2010, 15:59	#22
Sim123456 Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Laval	A review with green gas! ^^

November 7th, 2010, 01:38	#25
kullwarrior Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Edmonton, AB, Canada	I'm gonna stick my neck out and say... The nozzle is going to fail (See KSC Mp7 Japan version) The boltcarrier is going to fail long term (Mine KSC MP7 Taiwan got chip at the allen screw spot after 15k+ Still works fine though) The bolt catch is probably going to fail (such a heavy carrier, and all non-steel bolt carrier failed in the end... G&P, WE,WA etc) Though I'm still really interested in the KSC M4. Would be looking forward to the comparision against KJW which IMHO seems to be the only M4 GBBR worthy of skirmish out of box unless you count in Sun Project ones. __________________

November 7th, 2010, 08:29	#26
Sim123456 Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Laval	Anyway, it's not like we don't have 10's of other brands choice for an armalite!

November 7th, 2010, 23:19	#29
RacingManiac Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Canada/US	VFC is very close, but not compatible... __________________ My Arnies' Album My PBase Album Custom Pistol Whore...

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