WETTI/AWSS - M4/SCAR/HK416 - Technical Summary Thread

Brian McIlmoyle · December 11th, 2009, 15:31

Clean the barrel, make sure the HOP is not oily

808 · December 14th, 2009, 17:03

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Originally Posted by Brian McIlmoyle

Clean the barrel, make sure the HOP is not oily

Yeah - that's goes for GBBs as well as AEGs.

BIG · December 17th, 2009, 11:08

Hi guys!

I just got my WE SCAR GBBR.

I plan on building an CNC aluminum hinge plate.

Do you guys know if there are some already available?

If no, is there anybody who would like to join me and get a plate? The more we are, the less it will cost us!

Let me know

ShelledPants · December 17th, 2009, 11:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIG

Hi guys!

I just got my WE SCAR GBBR.

I plan on building an CNC aluminum hinge plate.

Do you guys know if there are some already available?

If no, is there anybody who would like to join me and get a plate? The more we are, the less it will cost us!

Let me know

Depending on the cost, I would be interested. Sub $50 would be ideal, but I would be open to any reasonable price.

GSK88 · December 17th, 2009, 12:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIG

Hi guys!

I just got my WE SCAR GBBR.

I plan on building an CNC aluminum hinge plate.

Do you guys know if there are some already available?

If no, is there anybody who would like to join me and get a plate? The more we are, the less it will cost us!

Let me know

Price depending, I would be interested. Any rough estimate?

BIG · December 17th, 2009, 13:45

I'll finish the CAD drawing and I will be able to get a precise quote.

Gonna be after xmass.

Thenooblord · December 17th, 2009, 14:17

I need a replacement firing pin delay stop, just my luck, 3 mags after i replace the damaged knocker, the next part breaks
any1 know if anybody in canada sells reinforced ones?

ShelledPants · December 17th, 2009, 14:34

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Originally Posted by Thenooblord

I need a replacement firing pin delay stop, just my luck, 3 mags after i replace the damaged knocker, the next part breaks
any1 know if anybody in canada sells reinforced ones?

Most of these parts are hard to find outside of Canada, yet alone inside Canada. Scout the USA forums for custom work or WE parts dealers. Airsoftbuddy or armedforces.hk.com might have it.

m102404 · December 17th, 2009, 14:42

There's the odd one kicking around from guys who have upgraded theirs before the original one wore out or broke...but you're best off ordering a replacement one from Todd at The War Store. E-mail him before hand to ensure there is one in stock...then it's just a paypal payment and mailing envelope away. It does go through customs as international mail...but it shouldn't take long.

The one his guy makes is CNC tool steel.

808 · December 18th, 2009, 02:18

FYI.

I will be testing an aluminum hinge plate shortly. Working on getting the steel valve strikers and triggers out right now. Hinge plate is ready to be tested shortly, as well as a light weight bolt carrier for SCAR AWSS.

I had originally intended on also doing part 66, but I thought the market was already flooded. If the need is there I can look at this one again.

And yes, I'm in Canada.

BIG · December 18th, 2009, 07:46

Good because I've asked a CNC shop and showed him the hinge and he told me it would not be under 150$.

So it is out for me.

I'll try and find a way to connect the stell plate (the one that the hinge plate attach to) with the bloc that hold the recoil spring.

Either by drilling and inserting 2 dowell pins or just by welding them together.

I'll let you know how it turns out!

808 · December 18th, 2009, 09:48

Why would you want to connect the two?

Especially if you will end up replacing the hinge plate with a metal one anyways?

To reduce the force of impact on the hinge plate you can also adhere a strip of 3M 1/8" thick padded tape. That will absorb a decent amount of force. I was thinking of including a strip with the hinge plates I'm producing incase people wish to dampen the force a tad.

Ultimately, a lightweight bolt carrier and lighter recoil spring would be ideal, but you may loose a few rounds per second by changing to a lighter spring.

With the enhancements I've made in an adjustable trigger, an aluminum hinge plate, lightweight bolt carrier, steel valve striker, and maybe a steel hammer/sear combo, I should be able to release a kit that increases rate of fire as well as improves overall reliability.

But I can only afford one part at a time until I sell out the products I'm manufacturing now.

I'm always open to other suggestions if any of you have any wild and crazy ideas to try.

BIG · December 18th, 2009, 11:09

well, I decided not to go with the metal hinge since it would cost me too must $$$.

By linking the rear plate to the spring bloc, there would be no more force to the hinge plate.

Might be cheaper for me to do so.

But then again, it would depend on how much you will change for the metal hinge plate.

Thenooblord · December 18th, 2009, 11:20

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Originally Posted by 808

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With the enhancements I've made in an adjustable trigger, an aluminum hinge plate, lightweight bolt carrier, steel valve striker, and maybe a steel hammer/sear combo, I should be able to release a kit that increases rate of fire as well as improves overall reliability.

whered you get that? I need one

GSK88 · December 18th, 2009, 11:33

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Originally Posted by Thenooblord

whered you get that? I need one

His website.

http://6mm-mag.com/2009/12/6mm-custo...-for-shipping/

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December 11th, 2009, 15:31	#106
Brian McIlmoyle 8=======D Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Toronto	Clean the barrel, make sure the HOP is not oily __________________ Brian McIlmoyle TTAC3 Director CAPS Range Officer Toronto Downtown Age Verifier OPERATION WOODSMAN If the tongue could cut as the sword does, the dead would be infinite

December 18th, 2009, 02:18	#115
808 Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: 6mm-mag.com - Winnipeg	FYI. I will be testing an aluminum hinge plate shortly. Working on getting the steel valve strikers and triggers out right now. Hinge plate is ready to be tested shortly, as well as a light weight bolt carrier for SCAR AWSS. I had originally intended on also doing part 66, but I thought the market was already flooded. If the need is there I can look at this one again. And yes, I'm in Canada. __________________

December 18th, 2009, 09:48	#117
808 Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: 6mm-mag.com - Winnipeg	Why would you want to connect the two? Especially if you will end up replacing the hinge plate with a metal one anyways? To reduce the force of impact on the hinge plate you can also adhere a strip of 3M 1/8" thick padded tape. That will absorb a decent amount of force. I was thinking of including a strip with the hinge plates I'm producing incase people wish to dampen the force a tad. Ultimately, a lightweight bolt carrier and lighter recoil spring would be ideal, but you may loose a few rounds per second by changing to a lighter spring. With the enhancements I've made in an adjustable trigger, an aluminum hinge plate, lightweight bolt carrier, steel valve striker, and maybe a steel hammer/sear combo, I should be able to release a kit that increases rate of fire as well as improves overall reliability. But I can only afford one part at a time until I sell out the products I'm manufacturing now. I'm always open to other suggestions if any of you have any wild and crazy ideas to try. __________________

December 17th, 2009, 11:08	#108
BIG Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Québec, canada	Hi guys! I just got my WE SCAR GBBR. I plan on building an CNC aluminum hinge plate. Do you guys know if there are some already available? If no, is there anybody who would like to join me and get a plate? The more we are, the less it will cost us! Let me know

December 17th, 2009, 13:45	#111
BIG Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Québec, canada	I'll finish the CAD drawing and I will be able to get a precise quote. Gonna be after xmass.

December 17th, 2009, 14:42	#114
m102404 Tys Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Toronto	There's the odd one kicking around from guys who have upgraded theirs before the original one wore out or broke...but you're best off ordering a replacement one from Todd at The War Store. E-mail him before hand to ensure there is one in stock...then it's just a paypal payment and mailing envelope away. It does go through customs as international mail...but it shouldn't take long. The one his guy makes is CNC tool steel.

December 18th, 2009, 07:46	#116
BIG Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Québec, canada	Good because I've asked a CNC shop and showed him the hinge and he told me it would not be under 150$. So it is out for me. I'll try and find a way to connect the stell plate (the one that the hinge plate attach to) with the bloc that hold the recoil spring. Either by drilling and inserting 2 dowell pins or just by welding them together. I'll let you know how it turns out!

December 18th, 2009, 11:09	#118
BIG Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Québec, canada	well, I decided not to go with the metal hinge since it would cost me too must $$$. By linking the rear plate to the spring bloc, there would be no more force to the hinge plate. Might be cheaper for me to do so. But then again, it would depend on how much you will change for the metal hinge plate. Last edited by BIG; December 27th, 2009 at 09:27..

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