WE p90 GBB

AngelusNex · June 29th, 2012, 07:39

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Originally Posted by GabeGuitarded

Doesn't make sense... FN licenced the SCAR-L to them already.

That was before this whole problem started. I had a we scar with full trades so I know why you'd think that.

redzaku · June 29th, 2012, 11:54

maybe they should get umarex, it seems that they have legal trades on their OEMed rifles...

Eeyore · June 29th, 2012, 12:13

It has been confirmed that the WE P90, SCAR H and MP5 projects have been shelved do to licence issues.

That still leaves the WE SVD (behind schedule), the WE Aug, Thompson, grease gun left to be released.

Plus they have two more versions of the AK and a MK 18 Mod 0 to be released soon as well.

I also hear rumors from some insiders about a SR 25 and a LMG in the R&D phase.

slink182 · June 29th, 2012, 12:15

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Originally Posted by redzaku

maybe they should get umarex, it seems that they have legal trades on their OEMed rifles...

I believe that Umarex licenses out for Walther and H&K, and have nothing to do the the FN Herstal licences.

(@Others: If I'm wrong, feel free to correct me.)

edit: an AUG and Thompson?! YES PLS THANKYEW!!!!!

Styrak · June 29th, 2012, 14:37

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Originally Posted by redzaku

maybe they should get umarex, it seems that they have legal trades on their OEMed rifles...

Umarex has HK trades.

HeadlessChicken · June 29th, 2012, 15:20

If its FN's trades thats causing the issue for WE from releasing the P90, MP5, and SCARH then why not remove them to be sold without trades like many of their other guns? Or is it more then just simply slapping FN's logo on the gun thats causing the issue?

Eeyore · June 29th, 2012, 15:53

Recently firearm making have been bringing litigation against people who make close copies of their work. So anything that looks too much like an MP5 or SCAR is grounds for a suit.

kullwarrior · June 29th, 2012, 16:15

WE's MP5 and P90, SCAR-H are forever shelved. I posted that a long time ago. Someone asked at WE GBB's facebook page and that was their official answer. MOVE ON folks.

P90's patent might/might not be expired, if it is trademark can be easily overcame

redzaku · June 29th, 2012, 16:34

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Originally Posted by Styrak

Umarex has HK trades.

give it time...

HeadlessChicken · June 29th, 2012, 17:03

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Originally Posted by Eeyore

Recently firearm making have been bringing litigation against people who make close copies of their work. So anything that looks too much like an MP5 or SCAR is grounds for a suit.

So regardless if theres trades on the gun or not, WE could still face a lawsuit for making a P90, MP5, and/or SCARH?

lurkingknight · June 29th, 2012, 17:44

yes.... because copyrights cover visual likeness as well as written material.

kullwarrior · June 29th, 2012, 20:38

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Originally Posted by HeadlessChicken

So regardless if theres trades on the gun or not, WE could still face a lawsuit for making a P90, MP5, and/or SCARH?

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Originally Posted by lurkingknight

yes.... because copyrights cover visual likeness as well as written material.

See trade dress lawsuit against Echo1 by Cybergun behalf of FN Herstal.

Echo1 was forced to disassembled their booth at Shotshow 2012 because of the litigation on the Advance Squad Carbine aka SCAR
http://everything-airsoft.com/blog/2...ng-on-fn-scar/

Huron · June 29th, 2012, 22:05

You'd think airsofters would boycott Cybergun... But it's less than likely in any large numbers. I want my goddamn SCAR-H and I don't want my money going to the French

Styrak · June 29th, 2012, 23:16

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Originally Posted by redzaku

give it time...

Give what time?

lurkingknight · June 29th, 2012, 23:29

well it would be tough to boycott cybergun, since they hold the licenses to many guns, and if a game features their gun under their control, like in CoD Cybergun gets paid a cut. I'm pretty sure I saw their name int he CoD credits before.

Umarex gets the same deal, this is why they went around buying up licenses from the gun companies for the likeness usage rights I imagine... they saw profit in it, and all they need to do is go to a company like FNH and say "hey, everyone wants to use a likeness of your product in their thing, and you don't have a legal team or department to deal with that, how's about our company take care of that for you. We negotiate the deal to use your stuff, you get paid, we take a cut."

IT's the same for vehicles too... ever look in the credits of a game like Ace Combat? All the plane manufacturers are listed there, logos and full deal... it's because they get paid a cut in licensing fees.

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June 29th, 2012, 11:54	#92
redzaku Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Edmonton	maybe they should get umarex, it seems that they have legal trades on their OEMed rifles... __________________ Love and Tolerance Coffee, what purpose does these serve? А ну, чики-брики и в дамки! За Родину! BRRRRRT!

June 29th, 2012, 15:20	#96
HeadlessChicken Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada	If its FN's trades thats causing the issue for WE from releasing the P90, MP5, and SCARH then why not remove them to be sold without trades like many of their other guns? Or is it more then just simply slapping FN's logo on the gun thats causing the issue? __________________ "Hey I'm the first one to say its a great country but its a straaaaange culture. This is a place where gun store owners are given a list of stolen credit cards but not a list of CRIMINALS and MANIACS. And now they're thinking of banning toy guns...AND THEY'RE GONNA KEEP THE F**KING REAL ONES!" -George Carlin 1937 - 2008 (RIP buddy)

June 29th, 2012, 16:15	#98
kullwarrior Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Edmonton, AB, Canada	WE's MP5 and P90, SCAR-H are forever shelved. I posted that a long time ago. Someone asked at WE GBB's facebook page and that was their official answer. MOVE ON folks. P90's patent might/might not be expired, if it is trademark can be easily overcame __________________

June 29th, 2012, 17:44	#101
lurkingknight "bb bukakke" KING! Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Ottawa	yes.... because copyrights cover visual likeness as well as written material.

June 29th, 2012, 23:29	#105
lurkingknight "bb bukakke" KING! Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Ottawa	well it would be tough to boycott cybergun, since they hold the licenses to many guns, and if a game features their gun under their control, like in CoD Cybergun gets paid a cut. I'm pretty sure I saw their name int he CoD credits before. Umarex gets the same deal, this is why they went around buying up licenses from the gun companies for the likeness usage rights I imagine... they saw profit in it, and all they need to do is go to a company like FNH and say "hey, everyone wants to use a likeness of your product in their thing, and you don't have a legal team or department to deal with that, how's about our company take care of that for you. We negotiate the deal to use your stuff, you get paid, we take a cut." IT's the same for vehicles too... ever look in the credits of a game like Ace Combat? All the plane manufacturers are listed there, logos and full deal... it's because they get paid a cut in licensing fees.

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