EH... I *DON'T* think so...

[pugs144]

Dude, I've managed to finger fuck a current JTF2 chest rig (see the pics posted above) and it is exactly the same one featured in the auction. It ain't a prototype and it ain't a factory second. Factory overruns being sold off? Yeah right. This cat knows someone in the supply chain at DHTC. He can get ahold of cool guy shit and we can't. Tough.

[bean]

I can have a company design me the current tac vest used by the forces. Does a picture prove anything? Nope i just shows someone is wearing a vest. Issue kit makes it to surplus stores by mistake all the time. Hell one close to me accidentally got a bunch of brand new tac vests. There is a difference then showing up in full kit and such. Some people use issued kit for things because it was designed well. Hell i use my sleeping stuff when i go camping. So the point is stealing is wrong, issued kit is great, and who can really tell the difference between issued and repro.

[pugs144]

With regards to the authenticity of my friend's rig his complete with PSP tag, inspector stamp etc as shown in the auction and is not a Tiger Tactial repro. Quit wallowing in denial.

But I can see where you flakes are coming from. After all, if I show pics of an issue "JTF-2 Mk1 Mod. 0 Plasma Assault Rifle" everyone will just claim it's a repro because there's no one to prove it otherwise. :roll:

The real cadpat material an the new kit are controlled items, and are not meant to be sold to the public. Yes, lots of it has made it out, AFAIK all/most of it was stolen or weren't disposed properly an people grabbed it, etc.


Kinda sucks though when civvies get the new CADPAT gear before real soldiers IMO.

[pugs144]

JTF-2 probably has mountains of spare kit lying around. That's probably how our enterprising supply chain dude managed to snag a couple of pieces. As to why this spare kit isn't going to the regular troopers, I don't know and I'm not qualified to comment.

Originally Posted by -MikeL-

The real cadpat material an the new kit are controlled items, and are not meant to be sold to the public. Yes, lots of it has made it out, AFAIK all/most of it was stolen or weren't disposed properly an people grabbed it, etc.


Kinda sucks though when civvies get the new CADPAT gear before real soldiers IMO.

yah, I was asking about CADpat disposal. Friend of mine at PSP says they toss it in garbage bags and into the dumpster.

[pugs144]

Is he referring to the disposal of scrap fabric or actual pieces of kit? Have at it then, see how many JTF-2 chest rigs, patrol vests, breaching vests, sniper suits, plasma disruptor rifles, and goddamn sharks with frigging lasers on their heads you'll find in the trash.

scraps, lots of scraps

[firemachine69]

Aww, was really hoping for kit!

*Looks in dumpster!*

"Hey dude! Found meself a CADPAT chest rig!"

:lol:

[made Man]

Originally Posted by MadMorbius

Showing up in an issue TV is not the same as showing up in your entire fighting order, uniform complete with regimental markings, rank, and headdress.

Yes, but it states in black and white: member of the primary reserve are not to wear issued stuff off work. No matter how much i like my stuff, it stays in the closet. Why do others think it is acceptable, i dont know.

Camping is a bit different... unless you wear your greens while camping

[Armedpacifist]

So your saying if I put my uniform on for a game of cops and robbers in my backyard, I will be formally charged?

How would that be any different from airsoft?

Hell, what about when I wear my uniform home from exercise after the time I've been paid for is up, will I get arrested and charged on my way home?

Also, as I have stated MANY times in the past, military law cannot be practised outside of a military base (or government building), so if the military police show up at an airsoft game, they can't do anything, and even if they ever did, I would just say I'm not military, how can they prove that I am?

Why would the other 90% of airsofters who wear issue and replica cadpat not be charged also?

In fact quote me the CFTO that says I'm not allowed to wear my issue gear to play airsoft.

THEN we can actually have a discussion.

The only problem you EVER get from wearing issue stuff would be from colleagues (if you are dumb enough to tell them) who think they are morally superior by not wearing it giving you some flak, but thinking about all the money I've saved not having the buy the stuff, I can deal with it.

Originally Posted by made Man

Yes, but it states in black and white: member of the primary reserve are not to wear issued stuff off work. No matter how much i like my stuff, it stays in the closet. Why do others think it is acceptable, i dont know.

Camping is a bit different... unless you wear your greens while camping

Just as the letter of the law has no provision for a grace limit when you're doing 105km/h in a 100 zone. It doesn't make sense to bog down the justice system with charges that were made outside the spirit of the law.

[pugs144]

Originally Posted by firemachine69

Aww, was really hoping for kit!

Sure. Just as long as nobody is making a profit eh? Because that would be bad.

[firemachine69]

Go look up "sarcasm" in a dictionary...

[Armedpacifist]

Originally Posted by firemachine69

Go look up "sarcasm" in a dictionary...

Keep digging buddy...

I wouldn't try to go for the last word on this one.