becoming wetarded

[Hectic]

LOL thanks!
So i was wondering. The open bolt conversion kit kike this one
Seems to have a bolt, nozzle, and the whole trigger and hammer assembly along with the hopup and inner barrel.
Looking at the price of the kit it seems like its about half the cost of buying all those parts on their own so considering the nozzle will likely need to be re0laced and at some point something in the trigger may break or wear out does it seem practical to just pick up one of these kits and then have all the parts on hand when something fails

[misomalu]

I suppose I'm a little late, but I would have recommend going with an Inokatsu or Viper tech GBBR, they are irrefutibly better than WE. They do everything the WE's can do, except about a thousand times better, more recoil, more versatility, more reliability, and hell, even more FPS if you really want it...

[MaybeStopCalling]

It'd be nice to justify your claims there...

[misomalu]

For one, all of their internals are made of high quality metals (not the cheap pot metal WE uses) so they have much fewer issues with breakage, you can increase the weight of the bolts extensively and increase gas flow even more, resulting in fantastic recoil, you also use Pro Win mags, which are much better than anything from WE (mine hold gas for several months at a time, and I rarely remember to lube them). If you want further proof, go to http://www.gasguns.info/forum/index.php Inokatsu and Viper tech GBBR's are king, I've owned WE's and they can't hold a candle to the utter stability and strength of my Inokatsu; forged aluminium receiver + all steel internals + 50 round magazines that never leak = goodbye WE.

[Hectic]

Im not denyin the Ino's are better but for cost and availabity and 416 goodness i went with we. One day im sure ill get a FCC and an Ino but if yer buyin.... Lol jk.

[m102404]

@ hectic - the conversion kit is a good way to go to get a bunch of spare parts. I think it comes with some feed lips too...although I've never broken a v2 feedlip so far they're nice to have.

@ misomalu - the Ino's are very nice and when they work they're sweet...but I don't think any of these gas rifles are infallible. The cost of a real cap loadout of Prowin mags is heart stopping.

[Kos-Mos]

Even if the conversion kit includes a whole lot of spares, it's expensive for nothing if you don't have a second upper to use the bolt.

Spare nozzle is 20-25$
Spare lips are 5$

Trigger components are common to open and closed systems, except the bolt-return sear, which is 1mm shorter on open bolt. And people are liquidating closed-bolt parts, so a complete trigger will run you maybe 15$

The hop-up chamber and bolt are useful if you build a second upper, but the barrel and rubber are far from good. Better buy aftermarket ones instead for "spare"

[misomalu]

Originally Posted by m102404

@ misomalu - the Ino's are very nice and when they work they're sweet...but I don't think any of these gas rifles are infallible. The cost of a real cap loadout of Prowin mags is heart stopping.

Certainly not infallible, but much more reliable, and I picked up an Inokatsu 2010 for $500, because the trigger group and nozzle were sold for parts xD, and I currently run 9 mags, 5 ProWin, 4 WA, I think I spent a total of $300 is on the mags, you just gotta know where to look For the entire cost of my Manga GBBR set up (G&P WOC and parts included), I have spent less money than I did trying to get POS WE's to work properly. I believe I was buying in the golden age of stock closed bolt rifles, version 1 & 2 open bolt kits, and version 1 M4 mags; I know WE has improved greatly since then, but after spending thousands of dollars an countless hours trying to get these god awful guns to work, I just can't get the sour taste out of my mouth.

[Aper]

Thousand of dollars to make them work ? Sucks to be you because my 3 WE's works perfectly with minor upgarde parts. It's funny how 90% of the WE users are satisfied with their rifles and aren't bragging all the time that their gun is broken, nor spent thousands on upgarde parts (thousands ... still laughing).

You can like the Inos better, fine for you, but don't whine and bitch about the WE ones here because you think having a Ino makes you better.

[Shifty-C]

I think im going to sell a couple AEG's and become a WEtard this season. im tempted to get something a little different, i hear that their AK's are kinda shit. Since RA tech came out with parts are they alright now with those? also was looking at an SVD but also heard a few bad things about them. mainly being very inconsistent.

what do you guys think?

[Aper]

Originally Posted by Shifty-C

I think im going to sell a couple AEG's and become a WEtard this season. im tempted to get something a little different, i hear that their AK's are kinda shit. Since RA tech came out with parts are they alright now with those? also was looking at an SVD but also heard a few bad things about them. mainly being very inconsistent.

what do you guys think?

The only issue I heard so far with the AKs are the trigger boxes. Mine is upgraded with the RA-Tech Steel Trigger set. I bought the gun like that, so I can't really say if there's a huge difference or not.

[Disco_Dante]

Originally Posted by Shifty-C

I think im going to sell a couple AEG's and become a WEtard this season. im tempted to get something a little different, i hear that their AK's are kinda shit. Since RA tech came out with parts are they alright now with those? also was looking at an SVD but also heard a few bad things about them. mainly being very inconsistent.

what do you guys think?

Hephaestus steel trigger set and an FG airsoft recoil buffer are the only thing they really need. I wasn't impressed with my friend's WE SVD at all. Fired a full magazine before I realized the safety was still on... and clearly not working.

[Shifty-C]

Originally Posted by Disco_Dante

Hephaestus steel trigger set and an FG airsoft recoil buffer are the only thing they really need. I wasn't impressed with my friend's WE SVD at all. Fired a full magazine before I realized the safety was still on... and clearly not working.

wow thats brutal. i had high hopes for the svd it looks so nice..
good to hear the upgrade parts help the ak. but their ak's are so... FUGLY. the only one that actually looks like it should is the 74un.

if they ever come out with a standard AK74 il get it.

[misomalu]

Originally Posted by Aper

Thousand of dollars to make them work ? Sucks to be you because my 3 WE's works perfectly with minor upgarde parts. It's funny how 90% of the WE users are satisfied with their rifles and aren't bragging all the time that their gun is broken, nor spent thousands on upgarde parts (thousands ... still laughing).

You can like the Inos better, fine for you, but don't whine and bitch about the WE ones here because you think having a Ino makes you better.

That price includes the price of the rifles, which were exponentially more expensive when they first came to Canada, also, I stated that I was using earlier WE models (which were absolute garbage), and that I recognize that WE has improved. Also, where did I say that owning an Inokatsu makes me better? I said that Inokatsu makes a better rifle, but not that WE owners were somehow inferior.

[Disco_Dante]

Originally Posted by Shifty-C

wow thats brutal. i had high hopes for the svd it looks so nice..
good to hear the upgrade parts help the ak. but their ak's are so... FUGLY. the only one that actually looks like it should is the 74un.

if they ever come out with a standard AK74 il get it.

Takes a bit of effort but you can build an AK74 out of a we AK PMC + the AKs74u. Then you can sell the spare parts as entire other gun.



That's my WE.