Sniper role - is it for me ?

Huge · November 2nd, 2009, 00:37

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Originally Posted by Bissa

what is defined as decently? as in what is it that requires being fit? bugging out ASAP when you are spoted? because if that is it than I would be fine, I can sprint 200-300M before it starts catching up with me.
also if I were to start sniping which I am looking in to I would be doing it for a lower death count (I generally end up being the bait for the better players to find the enemy)

You get to crawl a lot, you get to be in uncomfortable positions for a lot of time, you get to move quickly to change spots etc.

Ronan · November 2nd, 2009, 00:55

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Originally Posted by CDN_Stalker

The disadvantage is offset with other advantages, and doing well with it is what sets apart the men from the boys.

What advantages?

Bissa · November 2nd, 2009, 01:23

my guess would be that you have longer range and as such it is harder for them to shoot back if you do manage to spotted, silence that is inherent with the guns, and a more difficult play style if you are a proper sniper.

Ronan · November 2nd, 2009, 01:45

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Originally Posted by Bissa

my guess would be that you have longer range and as such it is harder for them to shoot back if you do manage to spotted, silence that is inherent with the guns, and a more difficult play style if you are a proper sniper.

Silence i can deff go with, BA make a LOT less noise. But range? They are limited with similar FPS so i can't see them shooting that much further. Especially compared to a real sniper vs rifle.

Bissa · November 2nd, 2009, 02:12

yes the ratio between RS sniper rifle and rifle is far greater than between airsoft BA vs rifle. but you still do have anywhere between 50 and 100 FPS bonus on the regular guns which means that even though you don't have as much of a range gain, you do have some gain and as has been stated, most people who use BAs use much heaver BBs than most regular players, so the energy stays with the BB fractionally longer.

Steven · November 2nd, 2009, 02:18

And dont forget, with such accuaracy at long ranges, and stealth, how do they know where to shoot?

and in reference to range, BA definately have an advantage. Why do you think people spend over 1 grand in upgrades? For fps? No, its for accuracy, especially since most AEG's cant range up to 300ft accurately, or at all.

Bissa · November 2nd, 2009, 02:22

I may be wrong but I am fairly sure that no BA in canada can shoot 300 feet either.

Steven · November 2nd, 2009, 02:24

Indeed they can. Look at Amos, Or CDN_stalker.

Ronan · November 2nd, 2009, 03:01

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Originally Posted by Steven

Indeed they can. Look at Amos, Or CDN_stalker.

300 feet? lol id like to see that. And no, having a bb fly 'somwhere' in the '300' range isn't being accurate. It's being lucky.

Their limited to the same fps of AEG, sometimes a bit more.

Adding 50-100fps and a longer tightbore doesn't double or triple your range.

CDN_Stalker · November 2nd, 2009, 08:34

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Originally Posted by Ronan

Silence i can deff go with, BA make a LOT less noise. But range? They are limited with similar FPS so i can't see them shooting that much further. Especially compared to a real sniper vs rifle.

Range is increased when using a heavier BB and having your hop up set right (250ft is easy). And BA are just more consistant due to less moving parts.

Yes, silent shots unheard outside of 20ft is a big advantage. Other advantage of learning to use a BA well and actually gaming with it is you take a lot less chances (and more), but it makes one a better player. With an AEG set on semi with full auto as an option, you might think "Well, I shouldn't take this shot because it might give me away, but I have full auto to back me up if I need it, so I'll take the shot anyways." Your tactics really change and you become much more in tune with what is going on, your surroudings, when is tactically your better time when to shoot, when you should just let the guys walk past. Listen to "The Gambler" by Kenny Rogers, that's what sniping in airsoft is like.

Drake · November 2nd, 2009, 08:40

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Originally Posted by Ronan

300 feet? lol id like to see that. And no, having a bb fly 'somwhere' in the '300' range isn't being accurate. It's being lucky.

Their limited to the same fps of AEG, sometimes a bit more.

Adding 50-100fps and a longer tightbore doesn't double or triple your range.

Inter shot consistency does. It's a common noob mistake to think a higher FPS makes for a more accurate or distant shooting gun: if you can get a consistent velocity shot after shot, accurate barrel and a heavy BB that will stay on course, you can start getting a consistent trajectory. And once you get that you can start arcing shots, more or less like on an airgun or real gun.

You should come out to a game sometime (a real one), you'd learn a lot.

CDN_Stalker · November 2nd, 2009, 08:56

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Originally Posted by Drake

Inter shot consistency does. It's a common noob mistake to think a higher FPS makes for a more accurate or distant shooting gun: if you can get a consistent velocity shot after shot, accurate barrel and a heavy BB that will stay on course, you can start getting a consistent trajectory. And once you get that you can start arcing shots, more or less like on an airgun or real gun.

You should come out to a game sometime (a real one), you'd learn a lot.

Hehe, was wondering if I or someone else would have brought that up.

And Ronan, I've gotten BBs out to 300ft before, consistantly. Sure, they were giving me maybe a 15-20ft grouping at 300ft, but they went out there easy enough. This was the one time I had my rifle set to 340fps w/0.20g BBs, and I was flinging 0.30g Bastards. Ask Testie next time you talk to him about that, he was there beside me at Apoc's, and he even toook a dozen shots and got the same thing I did.

FOX_111 · November 2nd, 2009, 10:30

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Originally Posted by Bissa

I may be wrong but I am fairly sure that no BA in canada can shoot 300 feet either.

I got one confirmed kill beyond 300fts. Many experienced snipers do.
At those range, it's much like Rob Furlong 2.4km kill. A lot of ajustement fire.

And by being fit, I mean, you will do a LOT of crawling, wich demand a lot of energy and flexibility. Sometime a lot of running then sudently going prone and hahing to steady a shot. If you are out of breath and sweating like a pig, you won't be able to take a shot with all the fogging and jerking. Also, if you have a big fat belly, good luck crawling around for a long time. I don't say it cant be done, but I assume it will be less than elegant and effective.

Bissa · November 2nd, 2009, 10:39

ahh, ok, I also read stevens post as being accurate to the point where the BB went where you aimed the scope the first time.

FOX_111 · November 2nd, 2009, 10:53

At certain range yes. depending on your rifle and weather, to a certain point you will get good enough grooping to hit what you are aiming for at good distances too.

You can hit a face out to 200 fts when there is no wind. If you miss the first time, you can still re-engage as most of the time, the target don't see where it's comming from and mistake the "ssswhoosshh" sound for a fly passing.

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November 2nd, 2009, 10:53	#45
FOX_111 Le Roi des poissons d'avril Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Terrebonne, Québec	At certain range yes. depending on your rifle and weather, to a certain point you will get good enough grooping to hit what you are aiming for at good distances too. You can hit a face out to 200 fts when there is no wind. If you miss the first time, you can still re-engage as most of the time, the target don't see where it's comming from and mistake the "ssswhoosshh" sound for a fly passing. __________________ Vérificateur d'âge: Terrebonne

November 2nd, 2009, 01:23	#33
Bissa Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Kelowna, BC	my guess would be that you have longer range and as such it is harder for them to shoot back if you do manage to spotted, silence that is inherent with the guns, and a more difficult play style if you are a proper sniper.

November 2nd, 2009, 02:12	#35
Bissa Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Kelowna, BC	yes the ratio between RS sniper rifle and rifle is far greater than between airsoft BA vs rifle. but you still do have anywhere between 50 and 100 FPS bonus on the regular guns which means that even though you don't have as much of a range gain, you do have some gain and as has been stated, most people who use BAs use much heaver BBs than most regular players, so the energy stays with the BB fractionally longer.

November 2nd, 2009, 02:18	#36
Steven Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Langley, B.C	And dont forget, with such accuaracy at long ranges, and stealth, how do they know where to shoot? and in reference to range, BA definately have an advantage. Why do you think people spend over 1 grand in upgrades? For fps? No, its for accuracy, especially since most AEG's cant range up to 300ft accurately, or at all.

November 2nd, 2009, 02:22	#37
Bissa Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Kelowna, BC	I may be wrong but I am fairly sure that no BA in canada can shoot 300 feet either.

November 2nd, 2009, 02:24	#38
Steven Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Langley, B.C	Indeed they can. Look at Amos, Or CDN_stalker.

November 2nd, 2009, 10:39	#44
Bissa Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Kelowna, BC	ahh, ok, I also read stevens post as being accurate to the point where the BB went where you aimed the scope the first time.

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