G&g- mp5a4 vs. Umg

[T_A_N_K]

Originally Posted by ThunderCactus

I wouldn't trust any G&G gun that has a CA, TM or G&P counterpart, but if it's your only choice, like the UMG, then go for it.
IMO, go for the UMG, V3 gearbox is rock solid, sturdy gun, and because it's a V3 it shoots DAMN far and DAMN accurate with minor upgrades (talking from experience here)

It doesn't take a lot of upgrades for any mechbox to shoot far and straight, it takes the right upgrades. I handled G&G's before aren't that bad, infact in many cases you get more value from them than CA or TM.

The Version 3 is far more superior to the Version 2 Mechbox, it is more structurally sound and will defiantly be more durable than a Version 2 mechbox. In terms of parts, everything is available for you to make a solid (or even more solid) mechbox for whatever you want it to do.

Keep in mind that if your looking for second hand UMG items, they are not common, and being so expensive. Also, finding gear to hold your UMG mags are a bitch to find.

Where as the MP5 is probably the next most common aeg in Canada besides the M4 family. Parts are always available used or new.

[-subzero]

Originally Posted by cbcsteve

There are some TM Mp5 somewhere in there hunt it down quicktime they are good stuff

ICS is also good too cause it has the split gearbox capability in which you can pop the top off to change the spring easily without messing with the gears

since when do they have the split gearbox like in there m4s?

[Bowers]

Originally Posted by Dexst

I don't mind spend the money on a good product, but where can I get a systema? I've checked the AV

maybe a retailer can bring it in for you

be advised though odds are its gonna be bloody expensive

[Styrak]

Originally Posted by zero4a-gze

since when do they have the split gearbox like in there m4s?

Since ever?

[Metternich]

Originally Posted by Styrak

Since ever?

More like never...last I checked, only their Armalites have split mechboxes. My ICS mp5 has a typical v2 mechbox.

[T_A_N_K]

I also have never seen any factory ICS Mp5 with a split mechbox only armalites.

[Styrak]

Originally Posted by Metternich

More like never...last I checked, only their Armalites have split mechboxes. My ICS mp5 has a typical v2 mechbox.

Oh, I thought his wording was:

since when do they have the split gearbox in there m4s?

Of course ICS MP5's don't have split mechboxes!

[cbcsteve]

Yes they do have Split Gear Boxes for ICS MP5's


Heres a source to increase your knowledge with a simple Google search:
http://arniesairsoft.co.uk/news2/2238

And yes other ICS M4's have split gearbox as well not just Armalites
ICS M4 CQB model has one

I don't just spout random things like those men wearing signs

[Metternich]

Originally Posted by cbcsteve

Yes they do have Split Gear Boxes for ICS MP5's


Heres a source to increase your knowledge with a simple Google search:
http://arniesairsoft.co.uk/news2/2238

And yes other ICS M4's have split gearbox as well not just Armalites
ICS M4 CQB model has one

I don't just spout random things like those men wearing signs

Unless I'm mistaken the split mechbox MP5's are still in development.....sooo ICS MP5's currently have regular v2 mechboxes.

[Styrak]

Originally Posted by cbcsteve

And yes other ICS M4's have split gearbox as well not just Armalites

M4's ARE armalites. Lol.

[cbcsteve]

Well now you know that Mp5 split's exist before anymore straying off topic continues, back to the main point

Dexst, like Crunchmeister said, I agree the JG MP5's are not bad either. A great starter price for someone whose just getting into Airsoft, Skfladin wrote a great thread about it here:

http://airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=58784

As well as the Jing Gong is TM compatible so if anything breaks you won't be sold short as you can easily obtain parts from local players here or where I go, Jugglez always has the things you need

www.airsoftparts.ca

Other than that I think you are set but if you want to splurge a TM or CA is a good step but if you are not too sure you really are a MP5 person the the JG or G&G is a good start, but JG is better lets hope Sasksoft gets some

[The Saint]

Originally Posted by m102404

Before this goes way off the rails in a pissing match...

It certainly won't be doing that.

I really don't know why people have such a big problem with G&Gs. Mine's (an AR) been nothing but great, though I did upgrade the inside. Cost less than an equivalent CA would've.

[Dexst]

Ok, I'm most likely going to go with a high end mp5 from TM or CA. I have to shoot off a couple pms.

Does any one know what the fps of the tm mp5 is?
Also is all mp5s on the market v2 gearboxs?

The only thing that's still pulling me to ump is the stock( which an mp5 can have)
Rails, also which mp5 can have.
The look is damn sexy and you don't often see one, which I really like being "one off"
And the v3mech box

[Cheesevillage]

Get a large battery man. Its worth it.

-yes all V2
-TM MP5s all shoot around 280 fps

[The Saint]

MP5Ks use version 3 mechbox, with the motor cage omitted.