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Old December 18th, 2008, 13:56   #31
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yup thats my mp5

as for preference, id go with a full stock version. not only does it hold a large battery the gun feels more solid. also for the fact that mp5s with batteries on the handguard are much harder to fit in than batteries that go on the stock.
Arg, but the asthetics. Hm, let's say I was to get a really high mAH battery, is it actually bigger than the handguard can hold?

ALSO! Another question: I see that you have an mp5. Let's say you were to use a low base mount and a scope that isn't elevated, do the iron sights get in the way? I'm thinking of getting a cantilever mount.
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Old December 18th, 2008, 14:04   #32
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Arg, but the asthetics. Hm, let's say I was to get a really high mAH battery, is it actually bigger than the handguard can hold?

ALSO! Another question: I see that you have an mp5. Let's say you were to use a low base mount and a scope that isn't elevated, do the iron sights get in the way? I'm thinking of getting a cantilever mount.
no use of putting a scope on a cqb weapon. the iron sights are just there for looks id say, i never really use them. all you gotta do to get good accuracy is a good hopup and the perfect bb weight for your gun.
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Old December 18th, 2008, 14:41   #33
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Or my CA / JG hybrid?



This thing is a beast. Externals are all Classic Army except the lower receiver which is the stock JG plastic lower. Internals are 100% stock, never opened JG. I replaced the stock JG motor with a stronger JG motor. It's at 38 000 rounds and unopened even for maintenance, and still going strong...
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Old December 18th, 2008, 15:22   #34
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The full stock looks nice and gives you more battery room but it makes the gun alot bigger. Personally, I use the mp5s for their small size. I like a gun that's no wider than I am shoulder to shoulder.
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Old December 18th, 2008, 15:26   #35
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Aren't you "wiry" and weigh about 140lbs? so a desert eagle with an extended barrel would do as well? HAHAHA...just bored and kidding around...
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Old December 18th, 2008, 15:31   #36
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your right, WB is your friend. maybe you should call um, seems you two haven't talked in a while

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Old December 18th, 2008, 15:32   #37
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I have to take pics of my mp5k with that 6 feet outer barrel
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Old December 18th, 2008, 16:21   #38
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no use of putting a scope on a cqb weapon. the iron sights are just there for looks id say, i never really use them. all you gotta do to get good accuracy is a good hopup and the perfect bb weight for your gun.

well i just wanna put on a scope for looks
cuz i got one fro cheap an nc star red dot, let's say if we were to put them on do the iron sights get in teh way?

also if i was to get a really high mAH battery, does it fit in the mp5a5 grip compartment?
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Old December 18th, 2008, 16:39   #39
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Check out the MP5-J model...there should be a pic with the low-rise rail attachment on it. It does ride very low..but you mount your RDS or scope in rings and attach it to that base. Whether or not it's high enough for you to use (googles, mask, etc...) or whether or not the scope/rds/etc...will be clear of the sights is unknown. More often than not...the optics will be higher than the iron sights...but the mount/base will block the usage of the iron sights.

You can get the "old-fashioned" HK-claw mount...which is quite high to begin with...and then mount your optics to that. The mount has a "tunnel" so you can still aim with your iron sights if your scope get's knocked out of alignment, or your RDS battery dies.

On some models (i.e. CA) the mounts attach quite securely (i.e. no wobble). On others...they don't quite fit...and if they squeezed hard enough to hold, they'd risk cracking the plastic body.

There is a "large" MP5 handguard....not sure if it's made anymore...and it's kind of weird looking. Aside from that...most foregrips can only hold mini batteries (i.e. small 2/3A sized cells). The largest capacity one I've seen is 1500mah...and it does fit.
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Old December 18th, 2008, 17:26   #40
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Check out the MP5-J model...there should be a pic with the low-rise rail attachment on it. It does ride very low..but you mount your RDS or scope in rings and attach it to that base. Whether or not it's high enough for you to use (googles, mask, etc...) or whether or not the scope/rds/etc...will be clear of the sights is unknown. More often than not...the optics will be higher than the iron sights...but the mount/base will block the usage of the iron sights.

You can get the "old-fashioned" HK-claw mount...which is quite high to begin with...and then mount your optics to that. The mount has a "tunnel" so you can still aim with your iron sights if your scope get's knocked out of alignment, or your RDS battery dies.

On some models (i.e. CA) the mounts attach quite securely (i.e. no wobble). On others...they don't quite fit...and if they squeezed hard enough to hold, they'd risk cracking the plastic body.

There is a "large" MP5 handguard....not sure if it's made anymore...and it's kind of weird looking. Aside from that...most foregrips can only hold mini batteries (i.e. small 2/3A sized cells). The largest capacity one I've seen is 1500mah...and it does fit.
thnx for the info! very usefull. So, figuratively speaking if I bought something like a 2500mAH battery or 3300 mAh I would have to use full stock?
But if I increase the milliampage, the rof doesn't go up does it?
just the useage time rite?
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Old December 18th, 2008, 17:34   #41
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thnx for the info! very usefull. So, figuratively speaking if I bought something like a 2500mAH battery or 3300 mAh I would have to use full stock?
But if I increase the milliampage, the rof doesn't go up does it?
just the useage time rite?
Higher capacity batteries usually can deliver more current, which in turn turns your motor faster and gives you a higher rate of fire. The diffence in my MP5 between the original 1100 mAh batter and the large 2500 mAh battery is quite impressive.
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Old December 18th, 2008, 17:34   #42
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Rof is increased. But in cqb its not that useful as semi is the prefered firing mode. But trigger lag is decreased with a bigger battery.
and lifetime is increased. its about 1 shot per mah 2000mah = 2000shots
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Old December 18th, 2008, 17:45   #43
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Yes. In general, if you bought a battery with that mah capacity you'd be holding a big battery that wouldn't fit the forend of your stock.

DO NOT buy a "butterfly" 9.6v 2200mah "mini" battery...they suck. Actually, they serve a purpose...but I've never found them usefull.

Big batteries have big cells...big cells can better provide more power in a sustained manner.

Higher voltage will increase ROF...larger Mah (typically...because you're into bigger cells) will result in increase ROF.

Defcon regularly plays full auto...area51 was full auto...a big burst hurts like a mofo...
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Old December 18th, 2008, 19:06   #44
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Check out the MP5-J model...there should be a pic with the low-rise rail attachment on it. It does ride very low..but you mount your RDS or scope in rings and attach it to that base. Whether or not it's high enough for you to use (googles, mask, etc...) or whether or not the scope/rds/etc...will be clear of the sights is unknown. More often than not...the optics will be higher than the iron sights...but the mount/base will block the usage of the iron sights.

You can get the "old-fashioned" HK-claw mount...which is quite high to begin with...and then mount your optics to that. The mount has a "tunnel" so you can still aim with your iron sights if your scope get's knocked out of alignment, or your RDS battery dies.

On some models (i.e. CA) the mounts attach quite securely (i.e. no wobble). On others...they don't quite fit...and if they squeezed hard enough to hold, they'd risk cracking the plastic body.

There is a "large" MP5 handguard....not sure if it's made anymore...and it's kind of weird looking. Aside from that...most foregrips can only hold mini batteries (i.e. small 2/3A sized cells). The largest capacity one I've seen is 1500mah...and it does fit.
ah ic i'll try the cantilever mount, looks nice =]

aw dayumn well 1500 is wut 1500 shots at 8.4 v? *sigH* 3300 would be nice
well le'ts see 200 bb's per high cap clip = 12 clips... taht's def enough haha

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Higher capacity batteries usually can deliver more current, which in turn turns your motor faster and gives you a higher rate of fire. The diffence in my MP5 between the original 1100 mAh batter and the large 2500 mAh battery is quite impressive.
ah... but then for that higher rof, u'd need a full stock... I think i''ll stick with collapsable just cuz i guess higher rof is kinda pointless

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Rof is increased. But in cqb its not that useful as semi is the prefered firing mode. But trigger lag is decreased with a bigger battery.
and lifetime is increased. its about 1 shot per mah 2000mah = 2000shots
oh that's sick, but why is semi more preferred?

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Yes. In general, if you bought a battery with that mah capacity you'd be holding a big battery that wouldn't fit the forend of your stock.

DO NOT buy a "butterfly" 9.6v 2200mah "mini" battery...they suck. Actually, they serve a purpose...but I've never found them usefull.

Big batteries have big cells...big cells can better provide more power in a sustained manner.

Higher voltage will increase ROF...larger Mah (typically...because you're into bigger cells) will result in increase ROF.

Defcon regularly plays full auto...area51 was full auto...a big burst hurts like a mofo...
haha ouch hm this is making me think just to stick with nonfull stock, but it has so many uses, but thing is i like looke of mp5j,a3,a5,navy so muuuch =S
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Old December 18th, 2008, 19:28   #45
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Ok...that's enough help for you...go buy one now and play a game.
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