Has anyone here actually had their airsoft seized at the border? (see criteria)

[kalnaren]

I had a Robert Goulet confiscated.

[No_Way]

I've hear they are discontinued !

[Andres]

Originally Posted by kalnaren

I had a Robert Goulet confiscated.

That set you back a fair bit didn't it

[kev007]

Originally Posted by Greylocks

On forums like these, before you ask a question like this one, you should read a lot.
After you have read a lot and found: Posts that say "Buy In Canada and here's Why" and no posts that say "Here's how to import legally from Outside Canada"... your next step should be to wonder why that is?

So why is it that a popular forum full of experienced people does not suggest getting airsoft from outside Canada? Because everyone here is too dumb to have tried? Like to spend extra cash? Or we all know better and there are consequences?

It's like the constant questions about "Is there a retailer in my province?" The answer is always "If they are not on the list above each page, no, or they are not reputable."

There's reading, there's doing research, and there's reasoning. It all goes together (normally).

I have to ask, do they not teach the basic techniques to find out information in schools anymore? How about what's called "reading between the lines"?

I could understand better if all this information was super obscure and all over the internet, but it's all (or mostly) on this site. What is not can be found using the links on this site.

Maybe I went to school too long, or too long ago. (What part of Smuggling and Illegal are unclear???)

Man, your inner soccer mom must be strong because that's the only way I can see why you'd take all that time to write so much bitchiness without taking any time to actually read my post. The worst part is that I tried to make my message as succinct as possible, even using numbered point form! Had you read it, you would have noticed the following:

- I have searched and am aware of the issues around this.
- I'm not asking about how to smuggle anything. I clearly state I am referring to people who declared their goods upfront.
- What I am asking for is a show of hands of people who have actually had their stuff seized when crossing the border in a specific and above board situation.

Last I checked, there aren't any threads asking this particular question and it appears there are other people here (regulars even!) who wonder the same thing.

In case you only read the last line of this message (as I suspect you will), I'll write something that may irritate you enough to go back and read it all:

YOU'RE A GROWN MAN; STOP ACTING LIKE A GIRL.

[No_Way]

Haha, you're a dead man walking now......boy !

Insulting Greylocks it's the end of the road for you !

[mcguyver]

Yes, but in Canada, we all know about the actual legality of importing a replica. Trying to it just because a CBSA agent may or may not do his job is in fact smuggling. The fact that you declare changes nothing. You know it's illegal, yet try to do it anyways, hoping to get it in.

The question you ask is basically fishing for an answer to a why an item would be seized. It would be seized because the CBSA agent actually did his job correctly.

END OF STORY!!!!

[Moderate]

Originally Posted by No_Way

I've hear they are discontinued !

Bad internals. They have some cheap knockoffs though:

[kev007]

Originally Posted by mcguyver

So, really, what we are asked here is for specific circumstances where the border agent failed to do his job properly and allow prohibited devices into Canada. Answering this question for the OP is not what I'd want to be doing.

Can anyone see where I'm going with this?

Well, I'm the OP, so you don't need to speculate. I can tell you exactly why I asked:

There are a lot of people saying this and that about how customs will seize your airsoft if you try to bring it in even when declared up front and in person, but seemingly precious few who have actually experienced it. I was wondering why that is. Is it mainly fearmongering? You'd think people who got their stuff seized would love to share their misery and tell their 'war stories' so to speak, but so far that doesn't seem to be the case. Maybe bringing across in person isn't that bad after all. I don't know, and none of the threads really cover this in detail, hence the question.

Also, please note I asked about times when people got their stuff seized.. ie, those would be times when the agent DID do his/her job properly.

Man, there's a lot of paranoia here.. should I assume that all the heavy lifting you're doing trying to re-interpret my post and keeping everyone else from answering is because you're a Canadian dealer who wants to keep his fat markup going for as long as possible? Sheesh, give me a break, guys.

[Scooby Steve]

Hey Opie...

[mcguyver]

Most people have been around this issue for many years. This forum has memebers here who used to import them when it was perfectly legal to do so, about 9 years ago now.

There are lots of people who've tried, and not been successful. I've fought customs on gun seizures before, years ago, and lost. Who would want to post up how they tried and got fried, when this community has a good track record of flaming these people for their blatant stupidity?

I've read dozens upon dozens of threads regarding seizures. Spend a few years reading here, and you'll have read them too.

There is no fearmongering or paranoia. There is only the law.

[Coma]

Originally Posted by mcguyver

Can anyone see where I'm going with this?

Yeah, to the end of airsoft in Canada. For every story of a seizure you can give me, I can cite an instance of someone bringing an AEG over the border. If you'd been to Border Wars, you'd see the car-load of AEGs that were brought over. The issue with WC's wife aside, the fact is that AEGs can be brought over the border. The way things are going, airsoft in Canada will die out due to a lack of AEGs.

[mcguyver]

No. Airsoft in Canada will die when a cubicle-Nazi at the CBSA sends an order down to seize anything that looks remotely like a gun. If you think it's unjust or an improper seizure, you would be directed to submit an appeal, which can take years to be completed. 19 months for my appeal to go all the way to the top, only to be rejected.

The more people that try it, because someone says "Bullshit, you can bring those in" means more eyes from all of LE on it, and a simple administartive order is all it takes to shut it all down.

It's funny how people don't realize that they are fucking themselves, their future and their community of airsofters because they want to save a few bucks. And it's always seems to be the dumbasses who want to go after the cheap guns because they're $99 in New York but $300 here.

As much as I detest censorship, this type of thread was lock and deleted only a short time ago. Now they seem to be what, tolerated? It needs to be again.

If you refuse to pony up the dough in the accepted fashion, get out of airsoft and take up knitting.

[JTF27]

Sounds to me that you think just because you declare it it makes it ok. Well they wouldn't allow you to bring in a switch balde or anything of the sort. The only fear here is of stupid asshats who make stupid choices with airsoft that puts it deeper into the red zone.

*Edit* Mcguyver beat me to it.

[kalnaren]

Originally Posted by mcguyver

No. Airsoft in Canada will die when a cubicle-Nazi at the CBSA sends an order down to seize anything that looks remotely like a gun. If you think it's unjust or an improper seizure, you would be directed to submit an appeal, which can take years to be completed. 19 months for my appeal to go all the way to the top, only to be rejected.

The more people that try it, because someone says "Bullshit, you can bring those in" means more eyes from all of LE on it, and a simple administartive order is all it takes to shut it all down.

It's funny how people don't realize that they are fucking themselves, their future and their community of airsofters because they want to save a few bucks. And it's always seems to be the dumbasses who want to go after the cheap guns because they're $99 in New York but $300 here.

As much as I detest censorship, this type of thread was lock and deleted only a short time ago. Now they seem to be what, tolerated? It needs to be again.

If you refuse to pony up the dough in the accepted fashion, get out of airsoft and take up knitting.

+1.

I just dropped nearly five times the cost of an AEG in US on a new one from 007. It cost me a shitload more, but I'm 100% guarenteed to get my AEG. I'm getting it legally, and I'm not putting airsoft in danager.

[kalnaren]

Originally Posted by moderatesniper

Bad internals. They have some cheap knockoffs though:

Meh, I went for the real thing. Kinda wish I didn't, I would have lost less money on a knockoff.