Filling the 249 role with what I have...

ThunderCactus · November 28th, 2007, 20:45

My 8.4v 4200mah battery gives me the same ROF as a 96.v 3000mah battery, had to turn the thing into a 7.2v lol
If the gun is potmetal, the bipod is always the first thing to give it away, the locking nubs wear out of break, pins break, legs bend. The CA bipod is an okay replacement, but I find the G&P is the toughest one in airsoft so far. I was actually looking into getting a real steel bipod for mine.

medhatboy · November 28th, 2007, 20:55

The mount for the bipod where it pivots forward and back into the hand guard, right where the pin that holds the bipod to that mount is where it broke, snapped right out.

Jayhad · November 28th, 2007, 21:03

TOP..... you will never break the gun, best built 249 on the market... there are actual welds on the TOP

The internals..... a hole different story, the stock bellows mech boxs suck busted mine within 20000 bbs.

If you want an awesome M249 and have some real bank, buy the top and add a ANGS replacement or a PGC mechbox... I have just converted to the ANGS after this season I will probably go to the PGC, I find the ANGS has an appetite for the pistons and at $40 ea, it sucks

ThunderCactus · November 28th, 2007, 22:17

Maybe not the gun, but you'll break the tabs on the bipod lol
http://arniesairsoft.co.uk/?filnavn=...m249_fixes.htm
It's too light for me, but its got good reviews, never held one myself but I'm turned off of TOP because of my friends old 3000$ M60E4 that only worked for 2 games.

mateba · November 28th, 2007, 23:48

CAs mechbox is a hoss! Its a brick, you cant break it unless you are REALLY trying to and you would probably need to start buy freezing it. I have played up against M249s that were running 590FPS with 20rps. CA all the way. Like Cactus said, you should consult your local teams on their views on support roles. FYI, its one of the most controversial noob questions in the book. In general I think a SAW is described buy performance then looks. I run a G3 with a C-mag and call it a HK11 even though it doesn't have the quick change barrel front end. Most purists would say "nah!" to my SAW. I would buy the kit if they had one though. In my defense, it is a 10+lbs gun and the c-mag alone hold 3lbs of BBs. I have also but enough money into my G3 to buy a CA M249. Most people believe SAWs should focus on ROF with the same FPS as the AEGs its being used with. I personally believe they should allow higher FPS limits but increase MEDs (20 extra feet) to promote more realistic tactics in airsoft.

mateba

ThunderCactus · November 29th, 2007, 01:27

Well I believe we should implement a "no tightbores" rule on LMGS since they fire from an open bolt they are inherently less accurate. The muzzle velocity of an M249 MKII is slower than that of an M16A3 with the same barrel length by an average of 160ft/s (90ft/s when comparing the 249P to an M4), so they should have lower fps limits.
I can see the minimum engagement distance making sense if your using high fps guns though. But it makes more sense to lower fps rules for LMGs for safety reasons, alot of times I can't hear people call their hits over the sound of my 249, and it's no picnic to continue getting hit until you pull out your killrag.
So ya, not being an ass, just pointing this stuff out

mateba · November 29th, 2007, 03:16

You're not the only one with that problem. I've had teammates tell me the guy is hit because I just can't hear him. Since the MK46s came out what are we supposed to do with RS/AS simulation conversations? The 7.62 would out perform the 5.56. What about PKMs when they do? They use the 7.62R the SVD Draganov sniper round. This is why I think airsoft rules and limits should be based on performance before appearance. They would be a more universal. Funny that you mention that SAWs should have stock barrels, I have a 6.01mm in mine.

I guess I'm just cheesy.
mateba

hutch1970 · November 29th, 2007, 09:39

Swat-Five-Six, that sux. I've been using mine lately in light skirmishes and noticed that the little stops for the bi-pod are starting to let my lmg rotate too far on the pivitol axis. My oldest son ( 6'2" 280 pds.) was running and fell w/ my A&K M249. It was real muddy. Fortunately, he didn't fall on it. Half of him was real muddy, but the rifle only had a little on it. Anyways, it's too bad aeg makers can't, won't use better processes or materials. But prices would probably get to prohibitive for them to make a profit.

ThunderCactus · November 29th, 2007, 18:56

I was debating putting a tightbore in mine, but more like the STAR 6.05 barrel lol
Right now my spread is deadly, your actually less likely to survive if you run for cover lol

medhatboy · November 29th, 2007, 21:21

Hutch, do you find the butt stong enought for the use of a sling, I like to sling my weapons, that y sling I have on my ciras was gold for those stand around and let the weapon hang situations, but that was for my M4, I'm a bit leary of the butt on this thing.

Jayhad · November 30th, 2007, 02:04

I hang my top of my Y sling on my CIRAS it is more comfortable then my AUG was,

I am using a para stock though

mateba · December 1st, 2007, 03:38

I figure even if we use TBBs the spread still will be worse than a real gun.

+1 to slings. If you can use the sling mounts you could use a universal attachment similar to ones found on some m16 slings. That is of course, you have a stock to attach it to. I use one on my G3 in a 1 point configuration.

ThunderCactus · December 1st, 2007, 14:26

Depends on the gun, M249s are pretty accurate, same goes for HK21, 23, 11 and 13. But LMGs like the RPK make it very hard to hit a target twice on full auto unless your prone.
And no matter what you do the spread will always be worse than a real gun, 1" spread at 60m compared to 1 inch spread at 600m lol

hutch1970 · December 13th, 2007, 00:21

I don't use slings on my guns. They get in the way for me- heavy brush, etc. Plus while I'm active, I don't put them down. I don't honestly think the rear stock would hold up well under the weight. The rear stock has some little pin holes towards where the stock hooks into the rear reciever, that don't look up to par. We'll see.

ThunderCactus · December 13th, 2007, 18:06

Considering CA is known for having good quality guns and their 249 stocks break off every now and then, ya I wouldn't trust A&K stocks either lol
Really helps that the sling mount on the retractable stock is part of the metal base of the stock and not at the end of the stock itself.
The sling comes in handy during long ops when I have a heavy ruck, since I'm a small guy the 249 hangs in front and balances me out lol
It does get in the way when your not wearing the slong, so what I did was put velcro on my sling so I can fold it up against the side of my gun and out of the way.

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November 28th, 2007, 20:55	#32
medhatboy formerly Swatt Five-Six Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Medicine Hat, Alberta	The mount for the bipod where it pivots forward and back into the hand guard, right where the pin that holds the bipod to that mount is where it broke, snapped right out. __________________ Medicine Hat Airsoft - Home of the Cypress County Tactical Airsoft Team

November 29th, 2007, 21:21	#40
medhatboy formerly Swatt Five-Six Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Medicine Hat, Alberta	Hutch, do you find the butt stong enought for the use of a sling, I like to sling my weapons, that y sling I have on my ciras was gold for those stand around and let the weapon hang situations, but that was for my M4, I'm a bit leary of the butt on this thing. __________________ Medicine Hat Airsoft - Home of the Cypress County Tactical Airsoft Team

November 28th, 2007, 20:45	#31
ThunderCactus Not Eye Safe, Pretty Boy Maximus on the field take his picture! Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2007	My 8.4v 4200mah battery gives me the same ROF as a 96.v 3000mah battery, had to turn the thing into a 7.2v lol If the gun is potmetal, the bipod is always the first thing to give it away, the locking nubs wear out of break, pins break, legs bend. The CA bipod is an okay replacement, but I find the G&P is the toughest one in airsoft so far. I was actually looking into getting a real steel bipod for mine.

November 28th, 2007, 22:17	#34
ThunderCactus Not Eye Safe, Pretty Boy Maximus on the field take his picture! Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2007	Maybe not the gun, but you'll break the tabs on the bipod lol http://arniesairsoft.co.uk/?filnavn=...m249_fixes.htm It's too light for me, but its got good reviews, never held one myself but I'm turned off of TOP because of my friends old 3000$ M60E4 that only worked for 2 games.

November 28th, 2007, 23:48	#35
mateba Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Alabama, USA	CAs mechbox is a hoss! Its a brick, you cant break it unless you are REALLY trying to and you would probably need to start buy freezing it. I have played up against M249s that were running 590FPS with 20rps. CA all the way. Like Cactus said, you should consult your local teams on their views on support roles. FYI, its one of the most controversial noob questions in the book. In general I think a SAW is described buy performance then looks. I run a G3 with a C-mag and call it a HK11 even though it doesn't have the quick change barrel front end. Most purists would say "nah!" to my SAW. I would buy the kit if they had one though. In my defense, it is a 10+lbs gun and the c-mag alone hold 3lbs of BBs. I have also but enough money into my G3 to buy a CA M249. Most people believe SAWs should focus on ROF with the same FPS as the AEGs its being used with. I personally believe they should allow higher FPS limits but increase MEDs (20 extra feet) to promote more realistic tactics in airsoft. mateba

November 29th, 2007, 01:27	#36
ThunderCactus Not Eye Safe, Pretty Boy Maximus on the field take his picture! Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2007	Well I believe we should implement a "no tightbores" rule on LMGS since they fire from an open bolt they are inherently less accurate. The muzzle velocity of an M249 MKII is slower than that of an M16A3 with the same barrel length by an average of 160ft/s (90ft/s when comparing the 249P to an M4), so they should have lower fps limits. I can see the minimum engagement distance making sense if your using high fps guns though. But it makes more sense to lower fps rules for LMGs for safety reasons, alot of times I can't hear people call their hits over the sound of my 249, and it's no picnic to continue getting hit until you pull out your killrag. So ya, not being an ass, just pointing this stuff out

November 29th, 2007, 03:16	#37
mateba Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Alabama, USA	You're not the only one with that problem. I've had teammates tell me the guy is hit because I just can't hear him. Since the MK46s came out what are we supposed to do with RS/AS simulation conversations? The 7.62 would out perform the 5.56. What about PKMs when they do? They use the 7.62R the SVD Draganov sniper round. This is why I think airsoft rules and limits should be based on performance before appearance. They would be a more universal. Funny that you mention that SAWs should have stock barrels, I have a 6.01mm in mine. I guess I'm just cheesy. mateba

November 29th, 2007, 09:39	#38
hutch1970 Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Texas, USA	Swat-Five-Six, that sux. I've been using mine lately in light skirmishes and noticed that the little stops for the bi-pod are starting to let my lmg rotate too far on the pivitol axis. My oldest son ( 6'2" 280 pds.) was running and fell w/ my A&K M249. It was real muddy. Fortunately, he didn't fall on it. Half of him was real muddy, but the rifle only had a little on it. Anyways, it's too bad aeg makers can't, won't use better processes or materials. But prices would probably get to prohibitive for them to make a profit.

November 29th, 2007, 18:56	#39
ThunderCactus Not Eye Safe, Pretty Boy Maximus on the field take his picture! Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2007	I was debating putting a tightbore in mine, but more like the STAR 6.05 barrel lol Right now my spread is deadly, your actually less likely to survive if you run for cover lol

December 1st, 2007, 03:38	#42
mateba Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Alabama, USA	I figure even if we use TBBs the spread still will be worse than a real gun. +1 to slings. If you can use the sling mounts you could use a universal attachment similar to ones found on some m16 slings. That is of course, you have a stock to attach it to. I use one on my G3 in a 1 point configuration.

December 1st, 2007, 14:26	#43
ThunderCactus Not Eye Safe, Pretty Boy Maximus on the field take his picture! Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2007	Depends on the gun, M249s are pretty accurate, same goes for HK21, 23, 11 and 13. But LMGs like the RPK make it very hard to hit a target twice on full auto unless your prone. And no matter what you do the spread will always be worse than a real gun, 1" spread at 60m compared to 1 inch spread at 600m lol

December 13th, 2007, 00:21	#44
hutch1970 Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Texas, USA	I don't use slings on my guns. They get in the way for me- heavy brush, etc. Plus while I'm active, I don't put them down. I don't honestly think the rear stock would hold up well under the weight. The rear stock has some little pin holes towards where the stock hooks into the rear reciever, that don't look up to par. We'll see.

December 13th, 2007, 18:06	#45
ThunderCactus Not Eye Safe, Pretty Boy Maximus on the field take his picture! Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2007	Considering CA is known for having good quality guns and their 249 stocks break off every now and then, ya I wouldn't trust A&K stocks either lol Really helps that the sling mount on the retractable stock is part of the metal base of the stock and not at the end of the stock itself. The sling comes in handy during long ops when I have a heavy ruck, since I'm a small guy the 249 hangs in front and balances me out lol It does get in the way when your not wearing the slong, so what I did was put velcro on my sling so I can fold it up against the side of my gun and out of the way.

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