AK74 CYMA 031 ($175). Is that a fair price?

[HaZarD SFD]

OMG why has this site become a noob magnet!

Originally Posted by CanIplayDaddy

All Cyma AEGs from 027 onwards are all on par with TM AEGs

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Originally Posted by HaZarD SFD

OMG why has this site become a noob magnet!

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Originally Posted by kalnaren

Hmm... Well, lets see. We know there are low end, cheap LPEGs. We know there are high end, expensive AEGs. Does it not make sense that there is something in the middle?

There is a middle. Your low end is -$400, mid is $500 to $700, high end is $800 to $2,500.

[HaZarD SFD]

Originally Posted by Droc

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There is a middle. Your low end is -$400, mid is $500 to $700, high end is $800 to $2,500.

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[kalnaren]

There is a middle. Your low end is -$400, mid is $500 to $700, high end is $800 to $2,500.

Cool, thanks for actually replying to what was posted!

Another question. Most AEGs seem to retail in the 500-700 range. Does this mean that most AEGs are actually middle-grade? I just ask because in my experiance (and I should say, non-airsoft experiance before Greylocks has a fit), just because something costs more doesn't necessarily mean it's higher end.

From what I can tell of airsoft guns, a lot of the ones up over $1k still have similar internals to the "middle" guns. For example, wwiiguns.com has an MG-42 for something like $1,200 US that uses the same internals as a TM M-16. I know most of the cost probably comes from having a gun that looks like pure sweetness, but is the actual quality of the higher priced equipment any better than the middle priced stuff?

Originally Posted by kalnaren

Cool, thanks for actually replying to what was posted!

Another question. Most AEGs seem to retail in the 500-700 range. Does this mean that most AEGs are actually middle-grade? I just ask because in my experiance (and I should say, non-airsoft experiance before Greylocks has a fit), just because something costs more doesn't necessarily mean it's higher end.

From what I can tell of airsoft guns, a lot of the ones up over $1k still have similar internals to the "middle" guns. For example, wwiiguns.com has an MG-42 for something like $1,200 US that uses the same internals as a TM M-16. I know most of the cost probably comes from having a gun that looks like pure sweetness, but is the actual quality of the higher priced equipment any better than the middle priced stuff?

The high cost of the MG42 is because its a super rare gun. Very few are made and the quality is beyond awesome. You'll notice that for many guns over $1,000, however, I wasn't referring to a collectors item like the MG42, but more along the lines of a Systema PTW, the undisputed best airsoft gun in the world and they have been known to sell for over $2,500.

Thats if your buying new. You take a look around the guns in the gallery, and they start off as $500 guns, but if it says "fully upgraded" you could be adding another $300 or more in value, and a few hundred more if your going to change things on the body. A high end airsoft gun could have been a $500 AEG, but with an easy $500 or more added to it.

Systema PTW with real optics, real MRE kit...this is one of my personal fav guns out there. I think the guy said its worth over $4,500 USD
http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/7679/ptw223vs.jpg

[Greylocks]

The quality of a gun like the MG42 is best described if you think about cars.

You can buy a golf cart, or a Lada, or another cheap ass car to get around town. Or you can buy a decent entry level and dependable car (most anything Japanese), or you can go for luxury/exotics.

Yes, cost means quality of material used and expertise of the manufacturer.

When I see comments from people here who have tons of experience with AEGs all say the same thing; buyer beware and you get what you pay for... I tend to believe them first.

When comments like $200+ is too much money but I want to spend $175 on a gun with a bad reputation instead of waiting come up, it makes sense to rethink what the heck you want to get out of this or learn to budget.

I would not go buy a Cyma just to prove a point, it would be checked by someone else I'd trust before cash got spent.

Companies who are in business and are serious about their products never have to compare themselves to others, or say they are as good as others.

You have a quality product, or you dont.

Cyma is, by all accounts I saw, starting to get into the barely acceptable level as compared to good quality brands. But they are far from what Marui, ICS and CA are producing.

[kalnaren]

Greylocks and Droc:

Thanks for the answers both.

[Moz]

Originally Posted by Greylocks

When comments like $200+ is too much money but I want to spend $175 on a gun with a bad reputation instead of waiting come up, it makes sense to rethink what the heck you want to get out of this or learn to budget.

<200 right now. When I'm not struggling to pay off many things like food, school, medical bills and other "life things" I might be able to afford to put down the required 500 dollars on a TM AEG, but since I have heard only positive things about this gun and nothing but negative attitude from use greylocks; it makes it really hard to take what you are saying.

(note: I also heard nothing but NEGATIVE things about all CYMA products before CM028 as being the worse items in all airsoft, so it is confusing)

I know a lot of shit head 15 year olds come in here and ask stupid and dangerous questions, and it is important to be unfriendly and hard on them. I have spent time researching this, what to look for in the AEG (the quality of the wiring, whether the gearbox has been oiled, (CYMA either uses extremely thick amounts of grease or zero) the battery connector, make sure it has a brace barrel, listen for a grinding noise, etc I know not to use cheap BBs that will come with it as they are imperfect and are not lubricated so will break apart in the barrel and damage it. I posted this on Airsoft Canada because I value the opinion of people experienced in the sport and about the value of AEGs. Greylocks you obviously have experience, but you are also an Xenophobe. So I'm not too keen on your experience at giving sound advice to newbies.

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I have proper shooting glass which should be okay for just plinking. I intend to get proper fully enclosed ballistic glasses after my next paycheque but until then I'll likely lend the thing to my girlfriend to use in her basement (She's an RSO with the CIC so she's less likely to take out and eye then I am, Too bad she can't take it on the range with her cadets though.)

I still have all the BDU from my cadet days so all I really need besides the glasses is webbing, some real-caps and a lot of BBs and to take the ATQ1 so I am 100% confirmed to be safe.

One thing I AM worried about is getting a gun case with lock. I'm not quiet sure what kind what size would fit an AK74 (960mm according to guns.ru!).

Thanks for all the help.

Cheers.

[The Saint]

Just remember that you can't wear ballistics glasses to all events. Those at paintball fields almost always require paintball goggles.

[Moz]

Originally Posted by The Saint

Just remember that you can't wear ballistics glasses to all events. Those at paintball fields almost always require paintball goggles.

I've looking into getting a set paintball that has the removal able face mask.

Then again both my local Airsoft fields(?) being that Thursday Splatters event (paintball goggles only) and TTAC3 (full face strongly recommended) I think getting just a straight paintball mask first is more reasonable and just get the x800 or similar later.

[Greylocks]

I'm not the guy I was referring to when I said a Site Admin with tons of experience gave you advice. You ignored him too.

Have fun.

PS, for me to be a xenophobe, you'd have to be a foreigner and I'd have to pick on you for that reason alone. I'm picking on you because you refuse to use logic and common sense, and you contradict yourself.

[Renegade)]

Resisting urge to mega comment and add to the shit and garbage tossing already going on in this thread...

In my opinion, dont you think it would be smarter to take that 200, or 175 whatever you have now, and put it in a drawer... save it man! Then like you said in a month or two, after you have some more cash flow, after you have visited fields and players and games, so you have some more knowledge, get yourself a gun that you will be happy with. I am not you, but I will say with confidence, you will not be happy with that 175 Cyma...

All the guys one here that said SURE, Buy it! thats a great price, are reffering to if you have the 175 just to toss away on a play/plink gun just to mess around with, since you have made it clear that you dont, Save your money!

[Greylocks]

Have you noticed that pretty much all the guys who promote Cyma are either; not age-verified yet, underage (15-16), or extremely new?

There's a clue in there someplace.

[HaZarD SFD]

DING!


Just wanted to see my sig! Looked like a dying thread anyways!

[Lakonian]

I remember seeing a video of a cyma exploding on youtube