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Old December 12th, 2012, 14:03   #31
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i would liek to recommend you the hellfire 1911 from airsoftdepot.ca its full metal and is pretty mucH a WE highcapa.
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Old December 12th, 2012, 14:08   #32
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Old December 12th, 2012, 14:40   #33
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Clear plastic frams WILL break. Its almost a guarantee. I know of what i speak i own 10 pistols currently. Every single clear frame gun i have had cracked, with the execption or my kjw glock 32. Its in a guarder frame now though.
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Old December 12th, 2012, 16:31   #34
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Parts are interchangeable, it breaks and I get a full metal version lower, at a lower price in total as these are interchangeable. As well as the magazines, I've gamed it and it seems sturdy, going to place a retention cord on it so it won't hit the ground if dropped. Until it breaks I'm good
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Old December 12th, 2012, 16:51   #35
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I picked up a KWC SW40F (Smith and Wesson clone). $150+tax at a major Toronto retailer (can't specify directly because you aren't AV'ed, so make the connection yourself). Great blowback, its CO2, which works great in any condition, and in the four months I have had it I have had ZERO problems with it. Fairly accurate for a CO2 pistol I must say. Fires at around 385fps using .20's. It slightly resembles a glock crossed with something else.. I've had TM glocks before, a G18 and a G17, and I actually like this better. Only thing is I haven't been able to find spare mags for it, although I haven't looked in the past six weeks or so.. should probably get on that..
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Old December 12th, 2012, 17:03   #36
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385 is a bit hot for cqb, but sounds cool
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Old December 12th, 2012, 22:12   #37
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Yeah no, not a CQB pistol, I only use it outdoors.
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Old December 12th, 2012, 22:17   #38
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I personally suggest a KWA ATP. Mine is the first gen and has run perfectly for thousands of rounds. Parts are easy to get if anything breaks and they are one of the TOP teir gbb pistol manufactureers. Prices are dirt cheap too.
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Old December 12th, 2012, 22:50   #39
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it breaks and I get a full metal version lower, at a lower price in total as these are interchangeable
It's likely you'll move on to a metal WE or a TM at that point. Pouring cash into a starter gun isn't really that super.. It does seem to be the case however that nearly everybody goes through their starter gun phase for a bit. No biggie. You can appreciate a high end gun like a TM (or whatever) that much more when you finally get your hands on one, and you will eventually..

An extra $150 for a TM sounds like a lot now but just wait until you get some higher/steadier income in your pocket. Just keep saving those pennies, in the meantime run what you got till it's dust .. That's what everyone else does.

You shot me with that KJW of yours at Ultimate Airsoft numerous times the night you came out to play with us last week and it stung like any TM or WE or KWA gun. Some of us run our TMs for months and months without getting a single kill with them, you tagged me and my guys many times that evening. That's all that counts for now...
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Old December 12th, 2012, 23:04   #40
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I personally suggest a KWA ATP. Mine is the first gen and has run perfectly for thousands of rounds. Parts are easy to get if anything breaks and they are one of the TOP teir gbb pistol manufactureers. Prices are dirt cheap too.
One thing that sucks about the ATP like most of the other KWA guns and non-TM , non-WE stuff is that they all fire way too hot for indoor play..
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Old December 14th, 2012, 23:44   #41
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There actually where some KJW FM p226's on sale for $150 brand new with a 10% discount at a certain grand opening, if anyone remembers that. Glad I got my dual tone, as it seems everyone has been sold out of them for months now. I still prefer the KJW over a TM tho.
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Old December 15th, 2012, 00:33   #42
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Lol, a little off topic, but what I experienced was that I got more kills with either of my pistols than I did with my rifle during my first game 0.0
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Old December 15th, 2012, 01:03   #43
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I'm curious, just HOW MANY of you experienced veterans out there actually still use a CO2 pistol after a number of years in the hobby vs propane?
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Old December 15th, 2012, 01:44   #44
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CO2 is less temperamental. Less fluctuations in velocity as well.
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Old December 15th, 2012, 02:05   #45
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One thing that sucks about the ATP like most of the other KWA guns and non-TM , non-WE stuff is that they all fire way too hot for indoor play..
Just stick an NPAS in it.
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