New to these WE gas rifles, got the KAC PDW. Now what?

coach · October 22nd, 2010, 16:10

why is it so hard to get in California? Can't you order direct from RedWolf or some other online China shop?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian McIlmoyle

I don't think it would eject clean if you fired it while folded... if it was real.

and the stock won't lock in the folded position.

teriases · October 22nd, 2010, 16:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by coachster

But AEG's do not have the same effect as 5-10 GBBR's popping up in a firing line and shooting all at once, then watching opfor scatter like mice in the field, regardless if they have a better position and cover.

So, IMO, results dramatically differ! Plus being overcome with giddiness, hearing your weapon clanking away as you over dramatize the recoil all the while overwhelming your opponents, just straight up kicks ass!

Lol over dramatize the recoil hehehe....

ur the best coachster.

I guess u need a magpul angled fore grip to manage that "recoil" now..

Ok but I know I asked something similar before but I need some advice... From a new player point of view which version of the PDW do you all think is best and easier to maintain and work with? I don't want to make the wrong choice and having to convert the system later.

Thanks...

Eeyore · October 22nd, 2010, 16:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by teriases

Lol over dramatize the recoil hehehe....

ur the best coachster.

I guess u need a magpul angled fore grip to manage that "recoil" now..

Recoil on all the WE gbbrs except for the Scar which is more is about equal to a .22 round.

Brian McIlmoyle · October 22nd, 2010, 16:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by coachster

why is it so hard to get in California? Can't you order direct from RedWolf or some other online China shop?
.

WE M4 is banned for import to the USA except for LE/MIL ( a real m16 upper fits on the lower... and this freaked the ATF out a bit )

why you think they hustled the G36C and the M14? they can't capture market share if they don't have products in the market

coach · October 22nd, 2010, 16:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian McIlmoyle

WE M4 is banned for import to the USA except for LE/MIL ( a real m16 upper fits on the lower... and this freaked the ATF out a bit )

why you think they hustled the G36C and the M14? they can't capture market share if they don't have products in the market

fair enough. forgot about the real upper fitting.

CheerioMatey · October 22nd, 2010, 17:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian McIlmoyle

WE M4 is banned for import to the USA except for LE/MIL ( a real m16 upper fits on the lower... and this freaked the ATF out a bit )

why you think they hustled the G36C and the M14? they can't capture market share if they don't have products in the market

Yea customs would seize it in a heart beat

CheerioMatey · October 22nd, 2010, 17:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by coachster

why is it so hard to get in California? Can't you order direct from RedWolf or some other online China shop?

and the stock won't lock in the folded position.

The stock wont lock in; but the tension keeps it in place when you lock down the bolts. it will have even more friction if you add like a rubber o rings into the hinge

coach · October 22nd, 2010, 17:48

To each, his own.

teriases · October 22nd, 2010, 18:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eeyore

Recoil on all the WE gbbrs except for the Scar which is more is about equal to a .22 round.

Wowwwwww serious? I can see why so many are hopping on the gbb train now

Eeyore · October 22nd, 2010, 18:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by teriases

Wowwwwww serious? I can see why so many are hopping on the gbb train now

About that yeah, a bit more with c02 than propane. And out of all of them the SCAR has the most recoil because of the massive peice of metal thats the bolt hitting the back of the gun.

kdogg · October 22nd, 2010, 19:54

There are a *couple* wholesalers who have WE M4's here in the USA now. You just gotta know who to ask for them I guess. I actually have one at the shop, the standard M4-A1 model. Not sure what I'm doing with it though.

That said, I thought that PDW with CTR stock WAS an M4 at first glance. I was like what the hell then I blinked and re-focused my eyes and realized it was a PDW lol!

I think you should put the PDW stock back on it. Other then that, it looks good!

Thanks for the info on the mag kits btw. I thought I saw something like that but I wasn't sure if it was to convert the old AWSS style mags to open-bolt or not.

I can comment on one thing about the mags though. The M4 mags, while they don't LOOK right, sure as hell work better then the Knights PDW 6x35mm style mags. The PDW mags seem to freeze up and run out of gas faster then the M4 style mags. I was going to buy all KAC PDW mags but I think I'll just keep my one KAC PDW mag for "looks" and photos I take, but use all M4 mags when I'm playing.

And now I have yet another question...

RA-Tech NPAS kits. How hard are they on the lower of these guns? I'm worried redirecting the gas might cause issues. I was going to buy the TSC CNC lower but I found a full trade marked WE lower for $52 dollars shipped so I just ordered that. I was really only after the trademarks anyway.

Also, this pistol grip SUCKS. I can't believe WE messed up so bad on the design. Number 1, it looks NOTHING like the KAC grip on the current PDW's and number 2, its uncomfortable as all hell. I see TSC also makes a grip that is included with there lower body, does anyone make one sold on it's own? And yes, I know a real AR-15 grip will fit but I want something stubby short. I really want to make my PDW look like THIS:

I've changed out the rear sight to match that, I've got the Comp2 with the L-mount, all I need is the trademarked lower and the right grip!

On a side note, are there any dealers up there in Canada that have the factory WE KAC PDW flash hiders? I can't get this gay orange paint off mine for the life of me and NONE of the dealers or wholesalers down here have them.

CheerioMatey · October 22nd, 2010, 21:35

I respect you guys' opinions - thanks alot for the responses.

Anywho, i have a question.

Will a magpul BAD lever fit on my we pdw?!

much thanks

-CheerioMatey

mr_nuts31 · October 22nd, 2010, 23:56

you might have to ask karnage at velocity arms. I know there's a topic on WE rifle parts ordering floating around in the retailer section

Amos · October 23rd, 2010, 00:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by teriases

Wowwwwww serious? I can see why so many are hopping on the gbb train now

on CO2 the kick is similar to a 9mm carbine lol

I can say that the 416, M14 and PDW certainly kick harder than a .22LR

Strelok · October 23rd, 2010, 01:44

Being a frequent .22 plinker, and an owner of a brand new WE M14. I can very much so agree with amos, This thing kicks like a mule.

Home	Forums	Register	Gallery	FAQ	Calendar
Retailers	Community	News/Info	International Retailers	IRC	Today's Posts

British Columbia	Alberta
BCAC	EAR
Op-For	JOC
Northern Arms Airsoft	Skunkworx Airsoft
Airsoft Kelowna	RAAT
Prince George Airsoft	Manitoba
Saskatchewan	MAA
SK Airsoft	Ontario
PDW	Airsoft Ottawa
South Sask Mercs	Snow Dragons
Quebec	1st Ranger Platoon
PQAC	Wolfpack Tactical
1st Pathfinders Regiment	TTAC3
Quebec Airsoft
MTX Airsoft	Atlantic
FAQc	Atlantic Airsoft

October 22nd, 2010, 19:54	#41
kdogg Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Kalamazoo, Michigan USA	There are a couple wholesalers who have WE M4's here in the USA now. You just gotta know who to ask for them I guess. I actually have one at the shop, the standard M4-A1 model. Not sure what I'm doing with it though. That said, I thought that PDW with CTR stock WAS an M4 at first glance. I was like what the hell then I blinked and re-focused my eyes and realized it was a PDW lol! I think you should put the PDW stock back on it. Other then that, it looks good! Thanks for the info on the mag kits btw. I thought I saw something like that but I wasn't sure if it was to convert the old AWSS style mags to open-bolt or not. I can comment on one thing about the mags though. The M4 mags, while they don't LOOK right, sure as hell work better then the Knights PDW 6x35mm style mags. The PDW mags seem to freeze up and run out of gas faster then the M4 style mags. I was going to buy all KAC PDW mags but I think I'll just keep my one KAC PDW mag for "looks" and photos I take, but use all M4 mags when I'm playing. And now I have yet another question... RA-Tech NPAS kits. How hard are they on the lower of these guns? I'm worried redirecting the gas might cause issues. I was going to buy the TSC CNC lower but I found a full trade marked WE lower for $52 dollars shipped so I just ordered that. I was really only after the trademarks anyway. Also, this pistol grip SUCKS. I can't believe WE messed up so bad on the design. Number 1, it looks NOTHING like the KAC grip on the current PDW's and number 2, its uncomfortable as all hell. I see TSC also makes a grip that is included with there lower body, does anyone make one sold on it's own? And yes, I know a real AR-15 grip will fit but I want something stubby short. I really want to make my PDW look like THIS: I've changed out the rear sight to match that, I've got the Comp2 with the L-mount, all I need is the trademarked lower and the right grip! On a side note, are there any dealers up there in Canada that have the factory WE KAC PDW flash hiders? I can't get this gay orange paint off mine for the life of me and NONE of the dealers or wholesalers down here have them. __________________ www.EmpireAirsoft.com - Retail sales, upgrades and repair service. Certified Systema PTW Repair Tech! Systema PTW M4-A1 MAX 2008 Systema PTW M4/CQBR 2010, Full CNC (EA Custom Edition) ARES Mk18 MOD 1 (EA Custom Edition) WE KAC PDW - 8-incher w/ Open Bolt Last edited by kdogg; October 22nd, 2010 at 20:07..

October 22nd, 2010, 17:48	#38
coach aka coachster Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: T dot	To each, his own.

October 22nd, 2010, 21:35	#42
CheerioMatey Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2010	I respect you guys' opinions - thanks alot for the responses. Anywho, i have a question. Will a magpul BAD lever fit on my we pdw?! much thanks -CheerioMatey

October 22nd, 2010, 23:56	#43
mr_nuts31 Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Petawawa, ON	you might have to ask karnage at velocity arms. I know there's a topic on WE rifle parts ordering floating around in the retailer section

October 23rd, 2010, 01:44	#45
Strelok Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Brandon Manitoba	Being a frequent .22 plinker, and an owner of a brand new WE M14. I can very much so agree with amos, This thing kicks like a mule.

New to these WE gas rifles, got the KAC PDW. Now what?

Upgrades & Modifications