G36C or L85 A2?

[Shooting Addict]

Originally Posted by heyds

One more quick question...

Between Star and Ares, which, in your opinion, is better?
Thanks Again

Regards,
Heyds

Ares but (i think) they are both owned by the same company.

[Kos-Mos]

Originally Posted by The Saint

Gen 1 ARES G36 is more or less the same as the original STAR G36s, except that gen 1 ARES G36 is suppose to have a better integrated scope than the STAR G36s and better QC.

Gen 2 ARES differs from gen 1 in the following ways:
- Permission to use the HK marking and G36 trade dress (a big deal, HK and its friend Umarex have a team of lawyers and they're not afraid to use them)
- One-piece upper receiver
- One-piece outer barrel (with barrel lock closer to the real G36)
- More realistic gas block design
- New shoulder stock (with lock closer to the real G36)
- New magazine (50rd locap with fake bullets)
- Locking bolt cover
- Electric blowback system (for the haters, it can be disabled)
- Couple other little things

Kos-Mos: STAR had the microswitch design from the beginning, as did gen 1 ARES.

Mine didn't had the micro switch. So maybe they added it later in the production line, since I had the 3rd Star G36 to enter Canada... kinda early in the product life.

[heyds]

Originally Posted by The Saint

Gen 1 ARES G36 is more or less the same as the original STAR G36s, except that gen 1 ARES G36 is suppose to have a better integrated scope than the STAR G36s and better QC.

Gen 2 ARES differs from gen 1 in the following ways:
- Permission to use the HK marking and G36 trade dress (a big deal, HK and its friend Umarex have a team of lawyers and they're not afraid to use them)
- One-piece upper receiver
- One-piece outer barrel (with barrel lock closer to the real G36)
- More realistic gas block design
- New shoulder stock (with lock closer to the real G36)
- New magazine (50rd locap with fake bullets)
- Locking bolt cover
- Electric blowback system (for the haters, it can be disabled)
- Couple other little things

Kos-Mos: STAR had the microswitch design from the beginning, as did gen 1 ARES.

Is the Gen 2 out yet?

[kalnaren]

Originally Posted by heyds

Is the Gen 2 out yet?

Originally Posted by The Saint

If you're looking for a gen 2 ARES G36, they're not available yet. Closer to the summer is when they will hit the market.

^^

[heyds]

Originally Posted by kalnaren

^^

Whoops! Should have read closer.

[Mobbs]

Would like to add to this discussion, bought and 85 a month ago and dispite some teething problems,it shoots straight,variable spring settings,and it's a bullpup,and true finding optics is a bitch,with the right up grades,love this weapon!! However one issue I have with ICS is this 1 broken tail tooth,poor cast,piss me off...2 Bought at Xmas ICS concept Cansoft version good gun buy all rights,shooting a little trace to sight in my red dot,only to find out the upper has broken in 2 ,I could be wrong but this stuff is not pot metal quality???I,m new to airsoft is there alot of crap out there???? I still love my L85 you guy's out there know me and I have enjoyed their thoughts..

[heyds]

Originally Posted by Mobbs

Would like to add to this discussion, bought and 85 a month ago and dispite some teething problems,it shoots straight,variable spring settings,and it's a bullpup,and true finding optics is a bitch,with the right up grades,love this weapon!! However one issue I have with ICS is this 1 broken tail tooth,poor cast,piss me off...2 Bought at Xmas ICS concept Cansoft version good gun buy all rights,shooting a little trace to sight in my red dot,only to find out the upper has broken in 2 ,I could be wrong but this stuff is not pot metal quality???I,m new to airsoft is there alot of crap out there???? I still love my L85 you guy's out there know me and I have enjoyed their thoughts..

I didnt know it was a bullpup. Not that that matters much.

[Kos-Mos]

Originally Posted by heyds

I didnt know it was a bullpup. Not that that matters much.

Err

What did you think it was?

Mag behind trigger = bullpup...

Same as FAMAS or AUG...

[heyds]

Originally Posted by Kos-Mos

Err

What did you think it was?

Mag behind trigger = bullpup...

Same as FAMAS or AUG...

In all the video's I watched I never even paid attention to the mag. Guess I should have looked more closley.

[kalnaren]

Originally Posted by heyds

In all the video's I watched I never even paid attention to the mag. Guess I should have looked more closley.

And with that statement, I HIGHLY recommend you handle a G36 and L85 before buying. Bullpups and standard rifles feel way different and are balanced way different. Especially a G36 and L85. The '36 has ALL of the weight over and forward of the pistol grip, whereas the L85 has a lot of weight behind the pistol grip.

Go to a game and check out some gear before committing.