FAQ for Tokyo Marui Hi-Capa, 2011, 1911, MEU & Detonics type variants

[ILLusion]

Originally Posted by Thenooblord

I ask again, why? the gun already runs faster than you can, so why spend extra money?

Because he's hoping to shoot as fast as Mr.Hitman some day.

[RacingManiac]

The key to beat Mr. Hitman is to have a working gun....

I kid, not looking forward to when he has the IMM built....lol

[ILLusion]

Originally Posted by juicy

What's this stuff about speed ports on slide? Does milling out a section of a slide actually make the slide that much lighter?

Well, the less material there is, the lighter it is, and thus, less energy is required to get it moving to speed. Just think about how shooting 0.20g BBs always yields a higher FPS than a 0.30g BB. Same idea.

The build was just an experiment to see how far I could take it while keeping it within reason.

See details on that slide set here:
http://www.pbase.com/illusive_airsoft/brazosbcgprosx

Experiments have already been done on complete nutbar ultra slight moving assemblies:











So basically, all of the bare essential components required for cycling have been separated from everything else. You can't get any lighter or faster than this.

[Shirley]

LOL.

Want lighter? The dude who complete the miracle reload and steel shoots on YouTube, sharkshooter, he got his BBU plastic. I don't even know what could be lighter, plastic or nine ball..

Anyways, I got beaten. Many times, that's what is so fun in CAPS. Competitive, so competitive like me which brought me to spend over $1000 on parts. hahaha

Even Tyson was suprised I bought a real C-more.



On another note, speed buffers and the little tiny stuff that are upgrades do give you a faster gun. Illusions has the right upgrades on his current competition gun and I was amazed how he did his double taps!

Once you're in this, you'll have no TM hi-capa parts left except for tiny springs, screws, and hop-up unit, due to upgrades. That's only if you choose to go open division. As in standard, you keep you front and rear sights. lol

[juicy]

ILLusion, that "nut bar" thing looks awesome, IMO.

Just wondering, but the WE Dragon split slide Hi-capa's have the same concept, no? If one were to completely rebuild that Hi-Capa's internals and use TM mags... could you get a decent high-cycling-speed out of it? Or are the WE shit-metals just straight-up heavy?

[ILLusion]

Originally Posted by Mr.Hitman

Want lighter? The dude who complete the miracle reload and steel shoots on YouTube, sharkshooter, he got his BBU plastic. I don't even know what could be lighter, plastic or nine ball..

The Nine Ball Feather Weight Piston IS plastic.

Originally Posted by juicy

Just wondering, but the WE Dragon split slide Hi-capa's have the same concept, no? If one were to completely rebuild that Hi-Capa's internals and use TM mags... could you get a decent high-cycling-speed out of it? Or are the WE shit-metals just straight-up heavy?

Yes, same concept... on a very wobbly (and heavy) platform. You're better off with a quality aluminum FULL length slide than to deal with the WE builds.

Ask Lanny... he got one and sold it right away. LOL.

[Shirley]

Originally Posted by juicy

ILLusion, that "nut bar" thing looks awesome, IMO.

Just wondering, but the WE Dragon split slide Hi-capa's have the same concept, no? If one were to completely rebuild that Hi-Capa's internals and use TM mags... could you get a decent high-cycling-speed out of it? Or are the WE shit-metals just straight-up heavy?

They do, but it's straight heavey. I compared the rear slide without BBU to a SD one, and it's heavy. I threw in internals and everything into the SD slide, and the rear slide of the Dragon is still heavier. Not only that, the rear sight base on the WE Dragon is basically a 1 piece with the slide so you can't take it off. lol

Only good thing about that is the long dust cover frame. If you're going to spend that money, might as well save up for IKs 2011 frame.

[juicy]

Originally Posted by ILLusion

The Nine Ball Feather Weight Piston IS plastic.

Also, speaking about that - how does the Nine Ball plastics hold up against a metal hammer?

[Shirley]

Originally Posted by juicy

Also, speaking about that - how does the Nine Ball plastics hold up against a metal hammer?

Hammer strikes onto the slide, not the BBU.

Originally Posted by ILLusion

The Nine Ball Feather Weight Piston IS plastic.

Holy cow!

[ILLusion]

Originally Posted by juicy

Also, speaking about that - how does the Nine Ball plastics hold up against a metal hammer?

Fine so far from my limited testing with another build....

Originally Posted by Mr.Hitman

Hammer strikes onto the slide, not the BBU.

Maybe on a real gun, but not for a Marui.
On a Tokyo Marui, the hammer actually strikes the frame. NEVER the slide.
It's slowed down enough by the valve knocker to not have full impact on the frame. Hardened steel hammers and enhanced hammer springs can quickly mash the stock Marui frame.

[juicy]

Originally Posted by Mr.Hitman

They do, but it's straight heavey. I compared the rear slide without BBU to a SD one, and it's heavy. I threw in internals and everything into the SD slide, and the rear slide of the Dragon is still heavier. Not only that, the rear sight base on the WE Dragon is basically a 1 piece with the slide so you can't take it off. lol

Only good thing about that is the long dust cover frame. If you're going to spend that money, might as well save up for IKs 2011 frame.

Haha, I figured that the slide would have weight issues. It IS a WE; pot metal dominates their production lines, AFAIK.

Rear sight issue blows, dude. Screw that. I was just thinking of one and slapping in a lightweight BBU because they look kinda cool (minus the wobbles, as ILLusion noted).

[juicy]

Originally Posted by Mr.Hitman

Hammer strikes onto the slide, not the BBU.

Yeah, I know that. Just wondering about the part of the BBU that cocks the hammer when the slide cycles.

Thanks, ILLusion. I'll ask sometime in a year or so about what you've experienced with the 9ball BBU.

[Shirley]

Originally Posted by juicy

Haha, I figured that the slide would have weight issues. It IS a WE; pot metal dominates their production lines, AFAIK.

Rear sight issue blows, dude. Screw that. I was just thinking of one and slapping in a lightweight BBU because they look kinda cool (minus the wobbles, as ILLusion noted).

Yeah, and if you get a WE, you would need to buy a TM hi-capa rear sight if you plan to swap slides. lol Not cheap to buy.

This is why I bought 2, kept one for my girlfriend and made it Hello Kitty, and sold the other one.

On the new WE Dragons, they have a non moving barrel which is pretty good. It stays still and smooth.

[juicy]

Originally Posted by Mr.Hitman

Yeah, and if you get a WE, you would need to buy a TM hi-capa rear sight if you plan to swap slides. lol Not cheap to buy.

This is why I bought 2, kept one for my girlfriend and made it Hello Kitty, and sold the other one.

On the new WE Dragons, they have a non moving barrel which is pretty good. It stays still and smooth.

Gah... that still blows, dude. The whole reason for getting one of the Dragons would be for the split slide and what I had thought would be less weight there.

The fixed barrel thing is interesting though.

Anyway, enough about WE's!

[Shirley]

Yes, you can get a split design, which will cost you about $1800 for the kit, and has to be cusom made for you by IK.